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this is another episode of UFO garage

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I'm Joe and this is where we talk about

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UFOs aliens and all the things we're

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talking about aliens UFOs all things a

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weird that's right Joe what's up man not

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a lot of dude not a lot I'm pretty

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excited about tonight's episode dude I

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mean we've got a special guest on with

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us again tonight episode 23 we've got

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joseline it's one of its one of our

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favorite people that we met a UFO

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Congress she's been kind of our our our

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guide through a lot of different

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subjects yeah yeah we reached out to her

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a couple of weeks ago she sent us some

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photos you guys some physical photo

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evidence that we're gonna we're gonna

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kind of do a little different format for

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this podcast yeah I would be kind of

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like an interactive thing so what I've

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done is I've posted on our website which

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it'll be a brand new website when you

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guys click on it scroll all the way down

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at the bottom it's a blog post so I'm

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gonna start doing like every episode is

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a different blog post yeah click on the

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pup blog blog post and you can see

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whatever we're talking about any images

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so you don't have to go to the Facebook

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group I mean I'd love for you to join

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the face group Facebook group there's

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also a link on the website for that but

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I'm gonna post this this gallery of

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photos that Jocelyn sent to us and we're

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gonna kind of go through this gallery of

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photos that Jocelyn has took taken

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herself or she's received from people

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that she has worked with in her

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initiatives to write this book that

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she's been working on and Jocelyn's just

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so you guys know is a she's been in the

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UFO community for over 20 years she

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lives in Sedona she's had multiple

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experiences Joe you know a little bit

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more about she's an intuitive I mean she

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you know she used to do the the the

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tour's you know the she study web dollar

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dolly love she study with the Dalai Lama

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I mean yeah this this woman is legit

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she's one of the sweetest ladies I've

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ever met

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just you know has amazing stories you

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know she's uh she's she's been all over

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the place and and she knows so many

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people in the UFO community I'm stoked

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to go through these photos with her I

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hope she like just explains each photo

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like bit by bit cuz they're amazing like

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she sent them to sent the photos to us

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I'm so stoked to kind of go through each

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one dude yeah my jaw kind of hit the

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floor yeah when I saw some of these dude

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these are incredible and the coolest

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part about it dude is that it doesn't

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matter like whoever's listening right

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now if if you want to see these photos

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go to our website and check them out

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because you have never seen know any of

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these photos anywhere you can google it

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I mean they're legit legit these are UFO

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garage PC calm if you're on your way to

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work right now pause and pick it back up

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and if you're by a computer go along

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with us through these photos I've named

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them and hopefully we'll kind of go

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through each one of them and and kind of

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like hey we're looking at this photo

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check out this I it I feel like I want

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it to be like an interactive thing like

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if you're listening to this fine but it

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man if you could pull this up on your

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your laptop or your computer it would be

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so awesome just to kind of go through

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yeah these these photos are insane I

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mean it's just photos you know like of

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Bradshaw ranch there's there's photos of

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cave like native cave paintings that are

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you know et's there's you know there's

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crafts raft little crystal-clear

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crafts actually and saucers photos of

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triangular yeah like I'm dude I mean

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yeah these photos are incredible are

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absolutely incredible so definitely

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don't miss out on that definitely go to

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UFO garage PC comm check out the blog

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part of the new website and man enjoy

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yourself just have fun with this I mean

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I'm so I'm assuming it's exciting to see

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what she's gonna say

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yeah yeah I mean it may be kind of a

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longer episode just you know because

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there's all these photos you don't

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thinking this thing's gonna be like five

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hours long split this up into two yes

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yes but yeah man

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yeah so I'm excited to have her on

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she'll be on here and here in just a

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little bit but uh but first man what's

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going on it in a facebook land you know

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before we go to the Facebook I just like

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to say so we sent out a thing on our

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last podcast about some donations and

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we're really looking for donations to

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buy these GoPros and these GoPros are

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meant to you know we want to do like a

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live YouTube show put it up on YouTube

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and do kind of like you know like a live

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a live feed and just have our faces on

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there and have it be interactive where

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we can we could put up images just like

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this one I wish we had the the the video

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the GoPros for this episode because it

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would have been perfect we can get

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reactions and stuff that's what we've

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been saving up for and we've also been

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just saving up for different things like

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paying for t-shirts new designs or going

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for us to go to different conferences

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where we meet new people we meet new

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people we have more guests we have more

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guests we have better content so I just

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want to thank you for Phillip night for

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donating to our cause for these GoPros

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Jarek also thank you so much for your

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donation absolutely my god we appreciate

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it very much

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very very much and thank you so much

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everybody that has bought a t-shirt in

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the past

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a couple of months we've only had the

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t-shirts free for a few months we still

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owe a few people some free t-shirts by

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though we do we're gonna get those out

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pretty soon so I again I just I'm bowing

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down to the guys thank you so much for

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for donating and also buying t-shirts

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and supporting this podcast like it

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means so much to us like this is

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something I really love to do and you

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guys are making it happen for us yeah

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definitely lets us know we're doing

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something right yeah you know what I'm

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so enough with the the sappy sappiness

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so one thing that happened this past

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week pretty awesome post there was an

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experience that happened dude and Joey

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what's your what's your take on this

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experience from Delano the Delano Delano

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Nicole's man yeah thank you so much dude

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for for posting on the on the group dude

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so he says apparently he's at work right

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and he says just seeing a bright star

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like a object in the sky of was a car

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Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl I Carlisle pike

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glimmered twice and then immediately

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myself what oh yeah and then I got back

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ass object hovering above this bright

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star my partner saw - so whoever was

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well dude right they both saw the same

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thing so he sees this thing he gets back

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to wherever he works his buddy sees it

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I mean clear blue sky no clouds saw it

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flying in disappear and he's sober as

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that parentheses yeah man and you know

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he says sadly I didn't get any pictures

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the second one I was completely in all

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but I know what I saw the first time and

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my partner saw the second time yes yes

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happened harrisburg PA pennsylvania hit

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some pennsylvania pins all day oh my god

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maybe yeah I mean that's shortly a

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couple of hours before sundown I mean

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obviously they saw something and they as

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and two people saw the same thing yeah

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and this created quite a ruckus on our

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on our group everybody kind of chimed in

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like I just love that yeah everybody

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kind of like well maybe it was this oh

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that's cool that's cool haha that's what

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this is all about absolutely dude

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stories like that absolutely yeah I

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asked him if that was his uh his first

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experience and he said no and he rose

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yeah he's he's seen things in the sky

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before so so yeah man dude props for

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looking up nobody looks up anymore yeah

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dude yeah I mean it's it's it's

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extremely important because they're uh

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they're showing up they're showing up a

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lot more and a lot more people are

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becoming conscious of this thing so you

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know that's awesome man thank you so

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much for posting on the on the group

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page and cuz yeah you know if any you

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your local MUFON group is one place to

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report your sighting but definitely the

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UFO you know garage podcast there's

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another place to report it because we

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love stuff like the group is like it's

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like half of us is like a little

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skeptical half of us is like if we think

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it's kind of [\h__\h] we're probably not

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gonna comment on it right so that's kind

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of a good indicator maybe it might be a

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cool video yeah yeah yeah we all love a

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cool video doesn't and some of it might

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be CGI it's like obviously CGI like cool

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video dude but like all right we're kind

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of all looking out for the real deal

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that's kind of fine yeah that's what

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we're kind of going for it's like not to

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you know diminish anybody that's come

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across a cult video on YouTube and like

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hey this is

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you know like that that video of the

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obviously was like a drone and there was

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like chaser chaser bullets yeah yeah

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okay so we looked at it practically and

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we all kind of as a group on the

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Facebook group decided that yeah it was

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probably oh here's some footage of

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people in the military actively shooting

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at a drone yeah an exercise uh-huh okay

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so we figured it out yeah totally yeah

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it is it is a UFO until it's not okay

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that's the difference it's like flying

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saucer is not a UFO like Stan Freeman

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always said like yeah UFO until it's not

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yep not all UFOs are flying exactly you

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know so exactly and we're all learning

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at the same time and that's what the the

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group is for yes sir yeah yeah dude my

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subscribe button post yeah yeah it was

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like hey you know you guys were also on

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YouTube definitely go over there and hit

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that subscribe button and uh to you on

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subscribe so that was cool yeah thanks

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for well I like your idea maybe people

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subscribed and they went to like

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now they're unscratched some subscribe

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let's just forgot I love it like that

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pompous view like oh they definitely

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want to be subscribed you guys are

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awesome and then everybody they gonna

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got those two back no no worries man

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no worries no worries dude good stuff

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Chris what's up dude what's this

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Jefferson Texas Bigfoot conference yeah

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I haven't got a chance to listen to that

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yeah we haven't I'm going to listen

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through that though and next podcast I'm

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gonna have some come to yeah William

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what's up

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William T okay I have my thoughts on

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this video okay the SpaceX the SpaceX

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basics video its of it the starship or

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is that just a regular because that's

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like it start it starts as the star hop

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or

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right it's like the the one that lands

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back to the ground yeah it's like a

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little hop it's like a little exercise

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that they did uh-huh

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and then it kind of cuts to one of the

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Falcon rockets right landing which is

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okay so those are two different launches

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uh-huh first off those are two different

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launches so the point of the video is

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kind of like and this is not William by

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the way making this video he's just kind

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of posted it on here like yeah no I like

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it I like his skepticism yeah that's

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what I enjoyed about about the post in

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general the fact that it was like hey

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you know like we have to all try and

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truly critically think about things to

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use Black Swan Theory basically what

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he's saying is like okay I saw this

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video you got it to our attention

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there for the group and like hey maybe

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you guys are that are new to this are

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kind of oh I'll kind of like subscribe

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to anything I see it's what he did

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William is is kind of bring this video

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to light in this group to say like you

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have to think critically absolutely

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because this to me is uh it's a lot of

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wishful thinking yeah to me yeah I mean

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okay so you did some research well yeah

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I mean you know it's it's made by a flat

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earther right I think I think that the

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SpaceX will while maybe doing some some

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really good things it wants a rapid

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prototyping yeah absolutely it wouldn't

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surprise me if there was a little

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[\h__\h] going on you know what I'm

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saying it wouldn't surprise me

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no it's fresh you know and you know

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you've seen the video where where the

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car is floating in space and he's like

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you know it's real cuz it looks fake

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you're right you know what I'm saying

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and it's like okay I don't really know

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what how to feel about that like I like

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I would have rather you not said that

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right but but it doesn't look fake to me

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yeah yeah yeah the car by the way the

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car video yeah yeah so the car video

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right um and so in this video they're

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talking

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but you know the stabilizers on the

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rocket and how is that ever gonna

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stabilize the rocket why they're

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stabilizers on the top of the rocket and

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things like that but hey dude I mean

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we're just doctor scientist doctor

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science we're not rocket scientists

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right rocket science is that's what we

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have to always come back on all right

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guys are we do we really look at this

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thing I mean in our first few episodes

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we were talking about like okay so

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there's some video video out there of

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possible UFOs that look like man that

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there's no way a craft can move in the

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way it does who's to say it can't move

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the way it does if it has anti-gravity

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technology right okay now or we're okay

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so fast-forward a few months we're

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looking at this real real thing uh-huh

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and it's moving in in this kind of

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particular way and there's this dude in

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this video that's like really analyzing

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the trajectory of the craft and how it

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shoots up and then it lands and it's

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like kind of disproving it yeah bro and

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he's really critical because there's

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there's footage of it launching yes

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footage of it landing but there's no

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ground footage around the rocket and but

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there is footage of these cattle running

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right yeah like running running across

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the screen he's claiming that that's it

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they're CGI cattle I can't really tell I

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can't really tell right and who's to say

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the cameras aren't gonna be burnt up by

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the heat the residual heat from the

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rocket on upon landing anyway like yeah

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I don't know I'm I bet you I guarantee

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you if you if you tweeted it

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Elon like hey how come we don't have any

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footage he would probably tweet you back

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like oh yeah cuz uh it burns up yeah so

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yeah so we're camera I I you know

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honestly from a scientific perspective

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dr. scientists dr. scientists

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perspective you know I really can't tell

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either way you know what I'm saying I I

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think some of the stuff they produce is

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incredible right yeah this is just our

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opinion I think some of the stuff that

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they're doing is incredible on the other

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hand

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do I think it's a good idea that you

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know I'm mosque wants to nuke Mars no

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right so is there obviously not all good

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ideas and yeah it wouldn't surprise me

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if there's some some you know some you

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know they're messing around yeah you

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know what I'm saying at some point but

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who knows what I like about this though

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is that this post really got my brain

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laughs just kind of cranking the gears a

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little bit I'm like oh you know like I

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kind of like just took SpaceX at face

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value I I assumed with anything like

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this there's there's some sort of like

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behind closed doors there'll be some

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sort of CGI every now and then

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what's so publicized yeah yeah exactly

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so yeah the other thing is that it's it

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was it was posted by Flat Earth hungry

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right and flatter others don't believe

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in anything do they hungry food

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flattered I think they're talking about

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hungry like the country hungry hunger

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those guys don't believe anything they

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don't believe in rockets a real thing I

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don't think Rockets are real things they

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don't uh they don't uh they don't

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believe the earth is round I mean I

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think that that alone is just yeah I

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don't know flatter anything Flat Earth

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disc rates I think flat earthers which I

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hope that that I don't think our group

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would ever become that but like if

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anybody like equates something oh if

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it's part of that organization it's

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[\h__\h] fake right you know yeah and

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that's why it's important for this type

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of posts in the context and your your

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explanation of it like explain why

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you're posting the photo or the video

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like hey this is a cool photo or video I

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don't fully believe in this this this I

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do believe in that that here's my ideas

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that's where the context comes in yeah

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when people come into this like group

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and they don't know anything and things

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you see these like random videos and

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there's no explanation it's like oh

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these guys are idiots like they believe

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anything yeah you know I really

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appreciate

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that yeah

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moving on dude so I posted about the

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doctor scientist TV TV TV show t-shirts

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pretty soon those links are gonna be

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outdated cuz we got a new website it's

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alright that we're no longer gonna go

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through ed C Etsy takes like a cut like

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a and it's like super complicated where

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like they charged me and then they

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charge the person and then they charge

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me back again it's like too complicated

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so it's I'm changing the change on the

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wrap on on how we sell t-shirts and how

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we support this this podcast so it's

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awesome by the time you hear this

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episode the new website will be up

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website will be up we've got the

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cinnamon Terry gentleman Terry the

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cinnamon Terry doc and we got xl's yeah

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sizes yeah seriously I don't know what I

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figured out dude joining in all my phone

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so yeah it's not like I purposely left

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it out I did I don't know what happened

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yeah I think it was just the

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manufacturer that I chose from the

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distributor maybe they didn't carry XL

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maybe did next post is about the

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Hitler's machine

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Hitler's time machine that was

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discovered in shock so I mean yeah I've

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seen this you've seen this yeah bell

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before I've never seen this exact photo

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yeah it's pretty compelling photo

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there's some weird writing on the side

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and there's obviously the the swastika

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whatever the article itself does not

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give a lot of information taking for

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what you will it's a good photo yeah

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yeah great cool pose I've seen like

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artist renditions of it yeah but like

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the actual photos is is pretty dope do

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we know it's an actual photo I don't

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know maybe not I don't know it looks

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really cool the article was like if

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you've ever looked into Hitler's time

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machine it's the same there's nothing

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really new about it but I mean it's it's

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good to keep it in the conversation yes

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totally

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so yeah Jordan makes for posts in that

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day I mean do you think do you think if

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if you're in a UFO it's kind of a time

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machine already yeah man if you if

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you're folding space-time in front of

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you and you're slipping into a future

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yeah totally

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you're amiright time keeps on slippin

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into the future yeah facedown

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let's go Michael Jordan's wanna fly like

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an evil it's there's Holmes dude they

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the MUFON San Antonio yes hey this guy

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I'm gonna need you to tell them to move

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those meetings so Fridays or Saturdays

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whoo what a Tuesday every fourth Tuesday

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dude I can't make a Tuesday job does

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people do people have to be able to like

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you have to be retired to be able to go

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[Music]

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meetings on Fridays or Saturdays you

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know what I'm saying somewhere fun like

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a bowling alley or some [\h__\h] you know

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what I'm saying like hey come have a

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beer let's talk about some aliens once

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we're done with that [\h__\h] then you can

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uh you can go play some some uh some

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bowling bowling yeah you know but dude a

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Tuesday I'm out to take vacation for

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that bro thinking like an actual

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vacation day that's taking taking money

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out of my children's mat

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Tuesdays don't have and then like

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Wednesday because like if I Drive back

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Tuesday night I know I'm gonna be sleepy

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and then the next day at work I'm gonna

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be completely completely useless dude

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I'm gonna be completely useless all

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joking aside though I am gonna make him

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yeah we're gonna go yeah yeah eventually

537
00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:05,320
we're gonna make that meeting but not

538
00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:07,880
not during December because they don't

539
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:09,740
do holiday meetings hey buddy just go

540
00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:11,330
well I'm gonna make it like a vacation

541
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:12,140
out of it

542
00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:14,810
yeah we're gonna go to a hooters oh dude

543
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:16,160
we're gonna go to a hooters

544
00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:18,350
we're gonna go to the meeting and then

545
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:19,460
we're gonna go back to the Hooters for

546
00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:22,810
dinner and then we're gonna go bowling

547
00:24:26,650 --> 00:24:24,560
yeah

548
00:24:27,910 --> 00:24:26,660
and choruses Chris you coming bowling

549
00:24:29,860 --> 00:24:27,920
with us bro that dude Chris you

550
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:29,870
definitely comments a back story behind

551
00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:32,510
the hooters is it we keep bringing up

552
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:34,550
UFO Congress like that's like the theme

553
00:24:39,610 --> 00:24:37,730
over hope but we went and like the

554
00:24:41,530 --> 00:24:39,620
cheapest food we could find was right

555
00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:41,540
across the street it was hooters yeah it

556
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,340
was like it was the closest thing

557
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,440
closest thing it was like the cheapest

558
00:24:48,910 --> 00:24:47,360
like wings and cheeseburgers that's

559
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:48,920
right only thing were ever hungry for

560
00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:51,290
and and football season had just started

561
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:52,820
right and it was like the only place you

562
00:25:03,250 --> 00:24:56,510
go catch the game yeah yeah dude yeah so

563
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:03,260
I dude I love that post that you sent me

564
00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:06,950
oh yes Kanye's face on it

565
00:25:10,660 --> 00:25:08,870
and it says that face you make when the

566
00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:10,670
Hooters waitress sits next to you in the

567
00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:13,670
same cuz I remember I remember telling

568
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:15,590
you that you think I [\h__\h] hate

569
00:25:20,410 --> 00:25:18,290
whenever they come and sit down next to

570
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,420
you like they know you or something it's

571
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:22,880
like don't know me do get out of the

572
00:25:27,730 --> 00:25:26,240
booth like what are you doing I imagine

573
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:27,740
they're all they they have like a script

574
00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:29,690
they're like okay bye so what are we

575
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:31,400
thinking we can get some like shooter

576
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,330
poppers maybe some beer some cold beers

577
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:38,960
yes absolutely why the [\h__\h] we be here

578
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:42,770
we hates beers yes yeah no I don't have

579
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,470
to sit next to me to know that we said

580
00:25:51,730 --> 00:25:48,320
that was like it was just a sport just

581
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:51,740
bring it we were like purposely like sat

582
00:25:56,740 --> 00:25:53,720
on the edge of the booth so they wanted

583
00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:56,750
to sit next to us like yeah let's sit

584
00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:57,920
right here on the edge because I don't

585
00:26:02,980 --> 00:25:59,450
want them to sit here I just want them

586
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:02,990
to bring me my food like it it just so

587
00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:05,980
happens that this was across the street

588
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:09,920
I wasn't gonna spend you know $20 on a

589
00:26:14,260 --> 00:26:12,530
cheeseburger you know what is funny too

590
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:14,270
is that she had a name tag but also

591
00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:15,950
because we were at the conference we

592
00:26:29,770 --> 00:26:22,760
also had she was like mojo like are you

593
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:31,270
[Music]

594
00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:40,680
[Laughter]

595
00:26:59,769 --> 00:26:44,179
okay I know that you have braces I have

596
00:27:03,909 --> 00:26:59,779
braces to know what does everybody want

597
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:03,919
to see my unit my favorite part of that

598
00:27:09,999 --> 00:27:06,470
whole movie Beavis Butthead to America

599
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:10,009
is when they they somehow sneak out of

600
00:27:24,099 --> 00:27:15,950
the hotel mr. bono but has still he's

601
00:27:31,169 --> 00:27:24,109
like in his whitey tighties movie so

602
00:27:56,109 --> 00:27:31,179
much - where's the unit in my pants

603
00:27:58,749 --> 00:27:56,119
he doesn't even know all right that's

604
00:28:10,659 --> 00:27:58,759
all yeah that's it for Facebook man you

605
00:28:13,869 --> 00:28:10,669
wanna uh your brain okay yeah hey before

606
00:28:16,419 --> 00:28:13,879
we get Jocelyn on check out UFO garage

607
00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:16,429
PC comm we got a new website up you got

608
00:28:23,260 --> 00:28:18,590
some merch up there it's a mess intimate

609
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:26,470
I still didn't say right doctor

610
00:28:32,049 --> 00:28:29,690
scientists seizure momentum and check

611
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:32,059
out abduction 51 at the bottom it's one

612
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616
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617
00:28:46,029 --> 00:28:43,150
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618
00:28:48,659 --> 00:28:46,039
let's bring Jocelyn on dude let's do it

619
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:48,669
man all right

620
00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:57,530
hello Jocelyn there I am oh hey Ben how

621
00:29:02,680 --> 00:28:59,690
are you guys doing good how are you

622
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:02,690
doing tonight I'm doing very well thank

623
00:29:06,970 --> 00:29:03,530
you

624
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:06,980
I've recovered from the International

625
00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:15,110
UFO Congress yes and talked me into

626
00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:18,830
doing the photography for her UFO Con in

627
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:21,590
February so I've got that to look

628
00:29:28,419 --> 00:29:25,970
forward to right oh yeah yeah yeah I

629
00:29:33,070 --> 00:29:28,429
would I would have liked have gone to

630
00:29:35,289 --> 00:29:33,080
star works but my daughters are home and

631
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:35,299
you know yeah definitely got to spend

632
00:29:38,409 --> 00:29:37,130
some time with them but hey we're gonna

633
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:38,419
see you uh we're gonna see you in

634
00:29:46,210 --> 00:29:40,010
February me and Ben are going out there

635
00:29:49,779 --> 00:29:48,190
we're gonna do some some podcasting out

636
00:29:52,029 --> 00:29:49,789
there and we're gonna get a little table

637
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:52,039
and yeah me and Ben already got our

638
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:01,520
plane tickets so we're gonna come stop

639
00:30:12,130 --> 00:30:08,720
by yeah that's awesome but yeah hey

640
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:12,140
first of all you know speaking of UFO

641
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:15,200
Congress for everybody that that doesn't

642
00:30:20,529 --> 00:30:18,260
know that's where we we met you Jocelyn

643
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,539
we were sitting at the bar

644
00:30:24,970 --> 00:30:22,880
me and Ben are finished eating our food

645
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:24,980
and we're getting ready to head out and

646
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:28,280
along comes comes Jocelyn and she comes

647
00:30:34,060 --> 00:30:30,890
into my camera in my hand that's right

648
00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:34,070
yeah you know

649
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:38,420
I don't miss a UFO Congress I've been

650
00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:42,770
going many years yeah and I know now

651
00:30:49,030 --> 00:30:46,430
because I've been going so long and

652
00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:49,040
taking photographs I know all the

653
00:30:56,620 --> 00:30:52,070
speakers and all the players and those

654
00:30:59,680 --> 00:30:56,630
also the fakers and all the liars yeah

655
00:31:01,180 --> 00:30:59,690
well I just want to say you know we have

656
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:01,190
been you know I'm kind of speaking for

657
00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:04,130
been here too but you know thank you so

658
00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:06,440
much for kind of opening up and

659
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:08,060
chit-chatting with us and and

660
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:11,360
introducing us to so many people I mean

661
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:13,730
if it wasn't for you you know me and Ben

662
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,050
would have just been standing in the

663
00:31:19,930 --> 00:31:17,600
corner all nervous like not no no no no

664
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:19,940
no you know what

665
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:25,280
see you guys are are young and vibrant I

666
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:27,110
don't know if you notice but the rest of

667
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:31,370
people were over 65 so I you have to get

668
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:34,310
involved because there's got to be

669
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:37,450
somebody that's got to take over this

670
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:40,910
you know and take the reins where we're

671
00:31:50,590 --> 00:31:45,970
losing you know there are no more

672
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:50,600
witnesses alive to the Roswell crash Wow

673
00:31:57,220 --> 00:31:53,690
last one just passed away a couple of

674
00:31:59,880 --> 00:31:57,230
weeks ago really yeah so this is what

675
00:32:05,350 --> 00:31:59,890
I'm talking about is like these really

676
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:05,360
important cases our firsthand witnesses

677
00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:10,310
are all going away and so you know you

678
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:13,870
have first-hand witness now you are

679
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:19,760
witnessing blink-182 with you know

680
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:23,980
making deals with the army right

681
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:28,250
yeah but you know that's the big story

682
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:35,710
today is is that TTS a it has this

683
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,370
metamaterials and okay so where did the

684
00:32:45,490 --> 00:32:42,320
medical materials come from you might

685
00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:45,500
ask well it was some guy that was a

686
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:49,190
dweeb in the army and he picked up a

687
00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:52,880
piece and put it into his pocket and he

688
00:33:00,760 --> 00:32:57,220
had it in his closet for many years and

689
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:00,770
he sent it to art Bell because you know

690
00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:04,250
yeah he was getting old and everybody

691
00:33:11,770 --> 00:33:08,270
else was old grandpa you know right and

692
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:11,780
so our Bell had it for many years and

693
00:33:19,289 --> 00:33:14,750
they tried to study it but you know

694
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:19,299
studying those metamaterials back in

695
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:23,260
1976 I think it was when our Bell got it

696
00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:28,250
that'd be like you know handing Thomas

697
00:33:34,539 --> 00:33:31,940
Edison and iPhone and you know there

698
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:34,549
just simply was not the technology they

699
00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:35,900
would have said oh this is really

700
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:37,640
interesting and no I don't know what it

701
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:40,370
is then I have no idea how you can

702
00:33:47,289 --> 00:33:43,940
separate those layers yeah yeah and so

703
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:47,299
if we win as far as technology goes and

704
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:49,610
that's the way it's been these meta

705
00:33:54,669 --> 00:33:52,130
materials have been known for for years

706
00:33:58,029 --> 00:33:54,679
and years and they you know they bring

707
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:58,039
them out and they test them nothing

708
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:01,039
comes of it because we can't test them

709
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:03,250
our technology were not smart enough

710
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:08,740
we're not you know we're not in et and

711
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:13,040
in 30 million years a more advanced than

712
00:34:22,419 --> 00:34:18,190
the homo no Atticus and you know it

713
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:22,429
these guys out as far as they they could

714
00:34:32,409 --> 00:34:28,879
and then art bill passed away and he had

715
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:32,419
art had gifted them to Linda Moulton

716
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,510
Howe right Linda had it yeah so they

717
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:37,280
belong to Linda uh-huh

718
00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:42,020
and Linda has loaned them to her friends

719
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:47,600
at PTSA okay and she said you've got six

720
00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:50,450
months and so you know look at all these

721
00:35:00,330 --> 00:34:54,620
TTA guys y'all come from the CIA and the

722
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:00,340
FBI and in the DoD and IA

723
00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:07,160
yeah Luther law Alonzo is a bio weapon

724
00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:11,600
specialist and has patents in bio

725
00:35:21,550 --> 00:35:16,840
weapons Wow hey I didn't realize that I

726
00:35:24,610 --> 00:35:21,560
mean this guy defended America and he

727
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:24,620
still is on the I'm defending America

728
00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:29,210
and I you know I'm I'm telling you he is

729
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:33,500
not these guys on pts a this is my

730
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:36,770
opinion they're defending us against the

731
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:41,770
deep state and they want this et

732
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:45,410
information to come out just look at all

733
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:47,510
these black projects if they can make

734
00:35:55,830 --> 00:35:50,990
them white projects we would have the

735
00:36:01,120 --> 00:35:55,840
answers to global warming to energy to

736
00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:01,130
religion to medicine - you know science

737
00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:04,870
to space travel we could become a first

738
00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:10,070
civilization war you know partners and

739
00:36:16,990 --> 00:36:13,460
and trade with other worlds but no we

740
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,000
would be too afraid to do that that's

741
00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:20,000
what - you know that's are these a

742
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:21,800
threat to national security

743
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:27,410
no in the project Bluebook ended we are

744
00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:30,560
not going to look into this any further

745
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:34,460
case closed Roswell was a weather

746
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:38,240
balloon and if there's anything else out

747
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:41,690
there it is not a threat to national

748
00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:45,290
security theory at the end so just for

749
00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:47,060
people that are listening and don't know

750
00:36:50,769 --> 00:36:49,400
what TTS a stands for it stands for to

751
00:36:52,989 --> 00:36:50,779
the Stars Academy

752
00:36:54,699 --> 00:36:52,999
right if anybody's yeah listening you

753
00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:54,709
want to look him up it's the whole Tom

754
00:36:58,809 --> 00:36:56,900
DeLonge thing and he's got a lot of

755
00:37:02,769 --> 00:36:58,819
backers and people that are a part of

756
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:02,779
their program even one guy in Austin in

757
00:37:07,569 --> 00:37:05,599
it's just that's where we're from so

758
00:37:09,909 --> 00:37:07,579
yeah it's it's a huge conglomerate of

759
00:37:13,989 --> 00:37:09,919
people that are kind of bringing the the

760
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:13,999
UFO phenomenon and a lot of these

761
00:37:18,099 --> 00:37:16,130
metamaterials out into the public so

762
00:37:19,509 --> 00:37:18,109
just just a little recap for people that

763
00:37:20,919 --> 00:37:19,519
are listening that haven't heard of this

764
00:37:24,189 --> 00:37:20,929
before I just kind of wanted to bring

765
00:37:26,609 --> 00:37:24,199
that out yeah oh sure I you know if you

766
00:37:30,999 --> 00:37:26,619
turn on your computer and just go to any

767
00:37:34,359 --> 00:37:31,009
UFO group you're going to be seen it's

768
00:37:36,609 --> 00:37:34,369
the hottest story on social media oh

769
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:36,619
yeah you're gonna be seeing things about

770
00:37:44,409 --> 00:37:40,640
to the Stars Academy PTSA and the army

771
00:37:49,299 --> 00:37:44,419
and blink-182 the reason that they went

772
00:37:53,620 --> 00:37:49,309
to the army is Linda said you can have

773
00:37:55,870 --> 00:37:53,630
these for six months and they said okay

774
00:37:59,169 --> 00:37:55,880
well we need a lab we need a you know we

775
00:38:02,559 --> 00:37:59,179
need the most cutting-edge lab there is

776
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:02,569
in the world and where do you think

777
00:38:09,459 --> 00:38:05,689
there is the most cutting-edge lab in

778
00:38:12,399 --> 00:38:09,469
the world probably the military probably

779
00:38:16,329 --> 00:38:12,409
the military and it's probably the army

780
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:16,339
at White Sands where they took the

781
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:19,640
original Roswell materials I've been to

782
00:38:23,169 --> 00:38:22,130
White Sands it's a very eerie place it's

783
00:38:25,539 --> 00:38:23,179
a very weird

784
00:38:27,699 --> 00:38:25,549
I know not white yeah yeah yeah I meant

785
00:38:32,049 --> 00:38:27,709
wright-patterson right now yeah well

786
00:38:37,059 --> 00:38:32,059
white hands yes I was I was missing that

787
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:37,069
there was just another sighting big

788
00:38:41,799 --> 00:38:39,890
giant sighting at White Sands just I

789
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:41,809
want to say day before yesterday wow

790
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:46,609
really yeah no you know things are

791
00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:51,589
happening and Linda said you got six

792
00:38:57,489 --> 00:38:54,709
months so all these guys on to the stars

793
00:39:02,589 --> 00:38:57,499
Academy that have ties with their best

794
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:02,599
friends in the Pentagon said we can look

795
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:04,610
at this we it

796
00:39:13,690 --> 00:39:07,220
we know that it has an anti-gravity

797
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:13,700
effect and you know there was a very pub

798
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:16,900
that well there was a private email that

799
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:22,130
became public between Eric Davis and how

800
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:25,490
put off where how put off said you know

801
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:31,190
these are our physicists and it's a very

802
00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:34,370
small world and the physicist community

803
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:39,080
right and how put off who is you know

804
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:43,720
wrote papers about anti anti gravity

805
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:47,660
effects told Eric that you know in this

806
00:39:53,220 --> 00:39:50,030
public email back off you don't know

807
00:39:57,310 --> 00:39:53,230
what you're talking about shut up and

808
00:40:02,400 --> 00:39:57,320
you know so I want to know why did you

809
00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:02,410
say that and you know and and there's

810
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:07,670
what you need to do is to look at PTSA

811
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:14,180
as the reimagined aviary group and if

812
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:17,110
you don't know what the aviary group is

813
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:21,200
then you need to just do a quick search

814
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,330
on the Internet

815
00:40:30,670 --> 00:40:26,800
right right but it's just you know

816
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:30,680
they've just have rolled this out again

817
00:40:38,650 --> 00:40:33,170
they've rolled out the meta materials

818
00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:38,660
again and they know that according to

819
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:43,160
all of the physicists that it should

820
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:46,310
levitate or they can try to get it to

821
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:49,210
levitate because they discovered that

822
00:41:00,190 --> 00:40:54,670
this material will soften the space-time

823
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:00,200
continuum which means you know back in

824
00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:02,810
the old days we thought well to travel

825
00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:05,720
to another system thirty-five

826
00:41:15,730 --> 00:41:09,980
light-years away is it would take so

827
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:15,740
much time and so much energy it was we

828
00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:18,110
just couldn't even count that high yeah

829
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:20,620
and now we're finding out with this

830
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:25,010
metamaterials if they can prove the

831
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:28,190
theory you know the mathematical theory

832
00:41:40,450 --> 00:41:32,560
from this group of physicists KITT green

833
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:40,460
then they can fold space-time and it

834
00:41:50,410 --> 00:41:45,760
would take about a triple a battery in

835
00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:50,420
energy oh wow I'm taking it to that

836
00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:54,020
their you know 35 light years away hmm

837
00:42:01,780 --> 00:41:59,570
I mean who who was it that came out and

838
00:42:05,890 --> 00:42:01,790
said we now have the technology to take

839
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:05,900
e.t home right yeah man you know I'm so

840
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:08,330
glad that Linda gave them six months I

841
00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:10,310
think that's awesome that they have to

842
00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:12,950
one give it back to her yeah and two she

843
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:15,470
put a time limit on it to where they

844
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,450
have to really get the ball rolling they

845
00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:19,520
can't just hold on to it and sit on it

846
00:42:24,250 --> 00:42:22,790
for years and years right and also like

847
00:42:26,650 --> 00:42:24,260
when you when you hand over materials

848
00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:26,660
like that if you're getting metallurgy

849
00:42:32,350 --> 00:42:28,940
done or or any kind of testing you have

850
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,360
to destroy a part of it to analyze it so

851
00:42:37,090 --> 00:42:34,400
number one she's not gonna get the whole

852
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:37,100
sample back but at least she's gonna get

853
00:42:40,330 --> 00:42:38,600
it back I think that's really good I

854
00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:40,340
mean I hope this she's gonna get yeah

855
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:41,420
absolutely

856
00:42:47,620 --> 00:42:44,690
yeah they're allowed to shave off so

857
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:47,630
many men no late leaders but you know

858
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:49,660
let's not forget this wasn't the only

859
00:42:56,530 --> 00:42:53,260
piece the piece that you're being shown

860
00:42:58,990 --> 00:42:56,540
there are these other pieces that look

861
00:43:05,410 --> 00:42:59,000
like they've been stamped out of

862
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,420
something like you know and from people

863
00:43:10,690 --> 00:43:08,000
that we know in the UFO community they

864
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:10,700
said yeah if you were going to test them

865
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:13,760
then you would make all these samples so

866
00:43:21,370 --> 00:43:17,480
you would you know stamp out so many and

867
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:21,380
they're about thumbnail size of a

868
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:27,950
different meta material and it is part

869
00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:31,570
some of them are 99.9

870
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:36,830
99% pure aluminum we don't have the

871
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,160
ability to make that Wow

872
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:43,280
yeah that's incredible yeah and again I

873
00:43:48,370 --> 00:43:45,770
mean the the word metamaterial literally

874
00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:48,380
means like it's it's it's a material

875
00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:50,630
made of other materials right it's it's

876
00:43:57,490 --> 00:43:54,620
a conglomerate of of metallurgy that is

877
00:43:59,740 --> 00:43:57,500
put together that's that that's not

878
00:44:02,020 --> 00:43:59,750
really understood right is that kind of

879
00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:02,030
kind of the idea behind metamaterial

880
00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:06,260
meta meta meaning like it's it's one

881
00:44:11,980 --> 00:44:09,830
within the same is that kind of yes what

882
00:44:17,650 --> 00:44:11,990
we're talking about is squirreling math

883
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:17,660
and this is you know where we you have

884
00:44:24,940 --> 00:44:23,570
to in all equations you have to throw in

885
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:24,950
nonlocality

886
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:27,920
you don't have to be there to make it

887
00:44:36,850 --> 00:44:34,430
happen right whoa so you know i i'm sign

888
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:36,860
said I don't know why God plays dice

889
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:41,450
with the universe but he does and you

890
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:44,810
know and and he explained this fuzzy

891
00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:49,190
math theory remember that yeah and okay

892
00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:52,760
so now you go out and you look at a

893
00:45:00,490 --> 00:44:56,390
flower and you can see something really

894
00:45:06,490 --> 00:45:00,500
extraordinary in flowers and around here

895
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:06,500
in cactus is that they have this curve

896
00:45:15,250 --> 00:45:11,090
that is 3.33 right the goldens reference

897
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:15,260
right but when you look at it you'll

898
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:20,210
notice that not everything is perfect

899
00:45:30,190 --> 00:45:25,190
it's not like you know coming out of a

900
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:30,200
computer the way that a scientist would

901
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:33,470
think of flowers every symmetrically

902
00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:37,190
exactly and this is it is it's more

903
00:45:44,890 --> 00:45:43,190
fluid than that it and it is not perfect

904
00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:44,900
and that

905
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:48,589
gives it beauty right yeah so you have

906
00:45:54,670 --> 00:45:52,249
to you have to kinda keep that in the

907
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:54,680
back of your mind even when you're

908
00:46:02,170 --> 00:45:58,160
talking about Sedona and the vortex and

909
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:02,180
the portals and how you work around it

910
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,130
now you get around something that is the

911
00:46:11,980 --> 00:46:09,440
metamaterials that even art bellwood

912
00:46:15,789 --> 00:46:11,990
talked about on his show many years ago

913
00:46:19,029 --> 00:46:15,799
is that he said I just felt good I felt

914
00:46:22,799 --> 00:46:19,039
like I could really think yeah oh wow

915
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:22,809
that's crazy I remember it changes the

916
00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:27,170
electromagnetic synapses in your brain

917
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:30,380
yeah yeah right yeah totally like and

918
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:36,049
heightens it so what they're thinking is

919
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:40,160
like you know they're gonna get these

920
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:43,249
guys that have been canceling out all of

921
00:46:50,170 --> 00:46:46,930
these equations into the room with this

922
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:50,180
right yeah and and they're going to do

923
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:52,940
they've never really tested it for the

924
00:47:02,849 --> 00:46:57,440
series because again just up until now

925
00:47:07,089 --> 00:47:02,859
we have not had a lab that was

926
00:47:11,890 --> 00:47:07,099
technologically advanced enough to saw

927
00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:11,900
even saw a piece of this off Wow whoa I

928
00:47:15,789 --> 00:47:14,390
didn't realize that that's that's pretty

929
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:15,799
crazy that's pretty crazy

930
00:47:19,779 --> 00:47:18,049
hey so all right Justin I'm sorry can I

931
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,789
interrupt you for a second so you said

932
00:47:24,489 --> 00:47:22,400
Sedona yeah yeah so you I kind of want

933
00:47:27,789 --> 00:47:24,499
to you know we kind of didn't give our

934
00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:27,799
listeners an idea of who you are Jocelyn

935
00:47:32,529 --> 00:47:29,900
Buckner and and I kind of just want to

936
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,539
go in on that just for a second okay so

937
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:34,880
I I know this is might might feel

938
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:36,559
awkward as I'm like talking about you as

939
00:47:43,269 --> 00:47:39,920
you're not here but I mean you've been a

940
00:47:44,890 --> 00:47:43,279
resident for over 20 years of Sedona and

941
00:47:46,089 --> 00:47:44,900
that's an Arizona it's it's one of the

942
00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:46,099
most beautiful places me and Joe

943
00:47:51,849 --> 00:47:48,589
actually went there for UFO Congress

944
00:47:53,799 --> 00:47:51,859
this past year in September we went up

945
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:53,809
to Cathedral Rock we felt that we don't

946
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,569
we saw the vortex area we went out later

947
00:48:00,940 --> 00:47:58,400
that night we saw some weird lie

948
00:48:03,339 --> 00:48:00,950
I have a personal awesome place in my

949
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:03,349
heart for that place forever absolutely

950
00:48:08,650 --> 00:48:05,930
you know and uh so anyway getting onto

951
00:48:10,809 --> 00:48:08,660
like who you are Jocelyn is you've

952
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:10,819
you've been a paranormal and UFO tour

953
00:48:15,339 --> 00:48:13,369
guide and intuitive for a really long

954
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:15,349
time and she's you've you've been

955
00:48:21,549 --> 00:48:17,510
visiting the vortices the portal area

956
00:48:23,140 --> 00:48:21,559
and Bradshaw ranch for 15 years and your

957
00:48:26,650 --> 00:48:23,150
tours have been featured on CNN

958
00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:26,660
Travel and internet radio shows and it

959
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:28,760
you're currently right you're working on

960
00:48:34,990 --> 00:48:31,250
a book about Sedonas meant the the

961
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,000
paranormal hotspots and vortices and I'm

962
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:36,559
telling you I didn't know this until I

963
00:48:41,260 --> 00:48:38,359
read your your bio that you sent over

964
00:48:47,819 --> 00:48:41,270
I'm so excited for this book because I

965
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:47,829
want because experiencing it firsthand

966
00:48:53,529 --> 00:48:50,630
it's really it's kind of an out-of-body

967
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,539
place in frame of mind and kind of thing

968
00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:56,480
and it just it really kind of changed my

969
00:49:01,299 --> 00:48:59,170
perception of you know quote-unquote

970
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:01,309
vortices I've never really heard about

971
00:49:05,769 --> 00:49:03,710
it you know vortexes until Joe kind of

972
00:49:08,260 --> 00:49:05,779
told me about it and I was like what's a

973
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:08,270
vortex yeah we've got out there and we

974
00:49:13,029 --> 00:49:10,010
experienced it and it was a really

975
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:13,039
really awesome thing and you know

976
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:14,750
through through emailing you Jocelyn you

977
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:16,730
sent me these these images and I'd love

978
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:19,849
to go through these these images and for

979
00:49:25,870 --> 00:49:22,400
anybody listening we're gonna post this

980
00:49:27,279 --> 00:49:25,880
folder this Google images folder on our

981
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,289
website you can scroll down to the

982
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:29,119
bottom we have a blog post now we're

983
00:49:33,849 --> 00:49:31,250
gonna make a blog we've made a blog post

984
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:33,859
that you can click on to kind of go

985
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:35,510
through these images as we're talking

986
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:39,710
about them anyway okay yeah so I started

987
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:41,630
interrupt but like I feel like we needed

988
00:49:47,289 --> 00:49:44,750
to know it's good to stay on target

989
00:49:51,339 --> 00:49:47,299
and I'm I'm anxious to talk about these

990
00:49:54,099 --> 00:49:51,349
and thank you for giving me the

991
00:49:56,650 --> 00:49:54,109
encouragement I was just looking at my

992
00:50:00,910 --> 00:49:56,660
book today thinking oh and I'm ever

993
00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:00,920
gonna finish like oh my gosh it's just

994
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:05,960
such big work don't you have a lot of

995
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:09,770
what I'm of these images here will be in

996
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:13,250
the book I'm going to get some

997
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:16,760
a permission from tong dango I haven't

998
00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:19,430
done that yet but he did say that I

999
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:23,870
could share them with you so first of

1000
00:50:35,020 --> 00:50:28,310
all you were talking about vortex and

1001
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:35,030
what is a vortex and in Sedona there is

1002
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:38,170
a these energy spots that are just

1003
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:44,150
naturally there there is an agreed over

1004
00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:48,110
the entire world and there of ley lines

1005
00:50:57,390 --> 00:50:54,470
and again they're not straight think

1006
00:51:01,720 --> 00:50:57,400
again about that fuzzy math and the way

1007
00:51:05,620 --> 00:51:01,730
that you know not everything is in a

1008
00:51:09,610 --> 00:51:05,630
straight line right and it's done that

1009
00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:09,620
way because it gives us character and

1010
00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:13,960
beauty and that type of thing but it

1011
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:20,150
what happens is this natural energy is

1012
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:33,030
gravity is eight times weaker than the

1013
00:51:41,380 --> 00:51:37,970
electromagnetic energy here huh whoa so

1014
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:41,390
so it's when you're here it you know

1015
00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:43,370
people a lot of times you know they

1016
00:51:51,850 --> 00:51:45,140
wouldn't fill it if you hit most of the

1017
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:51,860
head with a ball a ball hammer but there

1018
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:55,850
are other people that get very emotional

1019
00:52:01,720 --> 00:51:58,370
you know when they're here

1020
00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:01,730
it's called transcranial electro

1021
00:52:09,370 --> 00:52:04,760
magnetic stimulation and that vortex

1022
00:52:12,550 --> 00:52:09,380
energy causes your left side of your

1023
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:12,560
brain to cross over to your right side

1024
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:15,530
of the brain so that you know you can

1025
00:52:23,950 --> 00:52:19,970
give your creative side kind of a

1026
00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:23,960
reality check and on the same way your

1027
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:26,060
right side of the brain is going over

1028
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:30,730
your left side and giving your

1029
00:52:39,250 --> 00:52:34,250
analytical brain a break you know it's

1030
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:39,260
like okay come on you so it crosses

1031
00:52:48,210 --> 00:52:42,470
right at the pineal gland which is the

1032
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:48,220
seed of intuition so more people can't

1033
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:51,770
ideas or you know I should follow

1034
00:52:59,050 --> 00:52:55,850
through on that kind of ideas or if

1035
00:53:02,380 --> 00:52:59,060
they're a writer though they can remove

1036
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,390
writer's block and and artists get

1037
00:53:07,390 --> 00:53:04,160
really inspired that's why there's an

1038
00:53:11,170 --> 00:53:07,400
artist colony here yeah yes also you

1039
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:11,180
know the new age group and everybody

1040
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:15,110
that is involved in this fringe of the

1041
00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:18,830
EP in the UFOs and the Bigfoots and all

1042
00:53:27,340 --> 00:53:21,140
of that now

1043
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:27,350
the geology of Sedona is like white

1044
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:30,710
quartz crystal then there is water and

1045
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:33,350
then there's this red dirt and the red

1046
00:53:40,450 --> 00:53:38,210
dirt is iron oxides the same thing that

1047
00:53:42,250 --> 00:53:40,460
makes your blood red hmm yeah when

1048
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:42,260
people come here and they say Oh

1049
00:53:51,450 --> 00:53:44,690
sadhanas in my blood

1050
00:53:57,450 --> 00:53:51,460
well yeah but the three of them together

1051
00:54:01,150 --> 00:53:57,460
with this electric electromagnetic pulse

1052
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:01,160
creates a battery effect now I

1053
00:54:06,190 --> 00:54:03,410
understand that a lot of people are

1054
00:54:08,350 --> 00:54:06,200
feeling like it's not as strong as it

1055
00:54:13,060 --> 00:54:08,360
used to be that's true we're losing

1056
00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:13,070
ground water yeah that's part of the

1057
00:54:18,250 --> 00:54:15,260
battery effect because there's more and

1058
00:54:21,970 --> 00:54:18,260
more people coming there's more and more

1059
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:21,980
water being taken out of the the ground

1060
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:25,610
so anyway when people say yeah it's not

1061
00:54:32,290 --> 00:54:28,550
the same you know they're just building

1062
00:54:38,140 --> 00:54:32,300
and in turning it into a parking lot

1063
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:38,150
well that's true too but it's mostly the

1064
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:40,510
water there's a water issue

1065
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:44,890
and I can't in some areas it feels like

1066
00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:48,130
it's making it stronger you know the

1067
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:51,400
energy stronger but kind of harder and

1068
00:54:57,780 --> 00:54:55,210
in other areas it's just getting weaker

1069
00:55:01,079 --> 00:54:57,790
right all right well let's go through

1070
00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:01,089
the photos if you'll open up that first

1071
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:03,160
one yeah absolutely

1072
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:06,730
called for or you know I I work as a

1073
00:55:13,470 --> 00:55:09,970
photographer and photography was is my

1074
00:55:17,010 --> 00:55:13,480
hobby and so I always take my camera

1075
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:17,020
wherever I go and one day I looked

1076
00:55:26,609 --> 00:55:21,730
outside and this first one is a picture

1077
00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:26,619
of my house the little is from the side

1078
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:30,280
yard and the little house right in the

1079
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:32,320
middle that's the guest house where you

1080
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:35,880
guys can come and stay oh cool Donna and

1081
00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:39,070
you'll see off to the right there's

1082
00:55:47,069 --> 00:55:44,380
Cathedral Rock yeah okay

1083
00:55:51,319 --> 00:55:47,079
so I'm I'm sitting in my house and I'm

1084
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:51,329
looking out at this excited

1085
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:55,990
clerestory windows and my passive solar

1086
00:56:03,290 --> 00:55:58,720
home and I'm looking out at this cloud

1087
00:56:05,849 --> 00:56:03,300
and it is a complete circle around

1088
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:05,859
cathedral rock right you can see and

1089
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:09,510
then when I go outside to look at it and

1090
00:56:16,829 --> 00:56:13,810
I'm you know I'm walking kind of up in

1091
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:16,839
elevation here I see that it's got a

1092
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:20,290
double rainbow no way and so it looked

1093
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:23,800
like this big round circle that went out

1094
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,609
so I took some photos and if you can see

1095
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:29,680
in the photos very clearly there are

1096
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:33,910
four orbs and they're coming right out

1097
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:40,540
of this yes and then if I could blow it

1098
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:43,150
up more but there are more that are up

1099
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:46,510
in the clouds between the the rainbows

1100
00:56:53,740 --> 00:56:52,690
but those four orbs I took about six or

1101
00:56:58,090 --> 00:56:53,750
eight photo

1102
00:57:00,760 --> 00:56:58,100
of this and they're all in you know and

1103
00:57:04,990 --> 00:57:00,770
they're all in different positions it's

1104
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:05,000
not water if not rain it did not rain

1105
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:08,810
that's the name it it it hadn't been

1106
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:15,200
raining but it you know it could be it

1107
00:57:24,220 --> 00:57:19,370
could rain so the same for the this is

1108
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:24,230
something that's very typical I believe

1109
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:27,050
that these are light ships

1110
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:31,610
that's what I call them you know our

1111
00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:35,170
human eye can see in certain frequencies

1112
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:36,460
right

1113
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:39,530
but the ETS

1114
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:42,650
will you know they know that and so

1115
00:57:47,410 --> 00:57:45,290
they'll vibrate at a higher frequency

1116
00:57:50,140 --> 00:57:47,420
they could be standing right next to you

1117
00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:50,150
and you'd never see him oh man

1118
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:54,320
but if you take a photograph because of

1119
00:58:00,460 --> 00:57:57,410
the way our camera seemed more of the

1120
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:00,470
light spectrum they'll get a signature

1121
00:58:08,910 --> 00:58:07,280
and so I believe that they're in this

1122
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:08,920
photo

1123
00:58:18,030 --> 00:58:13,760
there is a probably a mothership that's

1124
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:18,040
behind the widest part of the cloud and

1125
00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:23,210
these are you know like Scout ships and

1126
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:27,020
and they're coming down to check this

1127
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:28,910
out I think it's interesting at the

1128
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:32,000
cloud the circle of clear sky is

1129
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:34,070
surrounding Cathedral Rock I think

1130
00:58:43,090 --> 00:58:35,810
that's that's pretty interesting it

1131
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:43,100
looks Eagle Rock is okay so you heard of

1132
00:58:54,250 --> 00:58:49,690
the GPS of from the Rendlesham case that

1133
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:54,260
says oh yes okay so let me go back for

1134
00:59:00,280 --> 00:58:56,510
the people that don't know in December

1135
00:59:05,650 --> 00:59:00,290
of 1980 in the Rendlesham forest in

1136
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:05,660
England on an American base a UFO came

1137
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:07,710
down and it was

1138
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:14,040
Christmas 1980 and these two Airmen Jim

1139
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:17,490
Penniston and John Burroughs were

1140
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:19,650
ordered to go see what came down in the

1141
00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:26,580
forest and this thing happened I guess

1142
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:32,750
for several days and it did turn into a

1143
00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:37,280
an abduction experience Jim Penniston

1144
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:40,260
you know disappeared for a day or

1145
00:59:47,810 --> 00:59:42,930
something but he came back Jim came back

1146
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:47,820
and he had written down 30 pages of ones

1147
00:59:51,830 --> 00:59:48,930
and zeros

1148
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:51,840
yeah that binary code you know long

1149
01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:58,410
before computers is 1980 I mean there

1150
01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:00,180
were computers but there weren't

1151
01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:03,150
computers in your house yeah right a few

1152
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:05,400
people knew about binary coded that yeah

1153
01:00:10,460 --> 01:00:08,550
I'm yeah and and they were trying to get

1154
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:10,470
them out remember there was the first

1155
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:16,260
apples and and the comm what was I call

1156
01:00:20,660 --> 01:00:19,170
columns feet or something anyway there

1157
01:00:21,980 --> 01:00:20,670
was that Apple and there was a pumpkin

1158
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:21,990
the pumpkin never made it nobody knows

1159
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:27,300
about the pumpkins yeah a compact and

1160
01:00:34,550 --> 01:00:31,110
and there was an IBM one that they came

1161
01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:34,560
out with too but yeah you know they had

1162
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:39,630
the big giant floppy discs and stuff but

1163
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:43,770
anyway so I had to make a fortune and it

1164
01:00:52,010 --> 01:00:49,710
had and this in his mind and several

1165
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:52,020
years ago I want to say probably two

1166
01:01:02,210 --> 01:00:57,230
thousand two or three he contacted

1167
01:01:05,540 --> 01:01:02,220
Claude Swanson who is you know this is

1168
01:01:10,370 --> 01:01:05,550
genius guy he wrote synchronized

1169
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:10,380
universe and Claude deciphered it for

1170
01:01:21,790 --> 01:01:14,850
him and at pointed is what one section

1171
01:01:24,849 --> 01:01:21,800
of this ones and zeros came out to be

1172
01:01:29,540 --> 01:01:24,859
seven different places in the world

1173
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:29,550
where there was a major portal where

1174
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:32,250
they eat where the craft were coming and

1175
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,160
going and Sedona had that GPS

1176
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:41,040
coordinates and I realize that

1177
01:01:51,099 --> 01:01:44,400
yeah and that GPS coordinate is about I

1178
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:51,109
want to say a quarter-mile away from the

1179
01:02:00,430 --> 01:01:54,690
Cathedral Rock now I now think about

1180
01:02:04,569 --> 01:02:00,440
this though when the Phoenix lights

1181
01:02:09,260 --> 01:02:04,579
happened it was first reported in Sedona

1182
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:09,270
really yeah and they traveled down the

1183
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:12,930
high 17 got into Phoenix and all those

1184
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:15,450
people thought kind of went out into the

1185
01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:19,050
desert went up toward Las Vegas and that

1186
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:24,560
this happened twice and so you know

1187
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:27,599
there's a lot to the Phoenix life were

1188
01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:34,140
you anyway did you do what my my bottom

1189
01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:38,040
line here is like that's that coordinate

1190
01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:41,880
is like the pinprick in the middle but

1191
01:02:48,770 --> 01:02:44,550
it's about the portal is a couple of

1192
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:53,780
and you know so it just depends on what

1193
01:03:01,550 --> 01:02:56,720
part of the tunnel they come out yeah

1194
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:01,560
back in Lemuria in days I did a

1195
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:04,290
meditation with this woman Paige Bryant

1196
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:08,520
way back in the day and you know we were

1197
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:14,000
looking at remote viewing Sedona during

1198
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:18,810
Lemurian times and we could see the UFOs

1199
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:21,839
coming out and you know and they were

1200
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:29,599
huge pyramid shaped or flat or kind of

1201
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:32,730
cigar shaped and they were a land you

1202
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:35,090
know for an airport mace

1203
01:03:42,620 --> 01:03:38,880
you know because it comes out it's just

1204
01:03:44,810 --> 01:03:42,630
a straight shot out of the the portal

1205
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:44,820
and for all we know they're still

1206
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,410
landing up there because they're

1207
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:49,200
vibrating in a way that we cannot see

1208
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,170
so Justin so I think we had talked about

1209
01:03:56,570 --> 01:03:54,720
the portal being around Cathedral Rock

1210
01:03:58,790 --> 01:03:56,580
is that the same portal that we're

1211
01:04:01,970 --> 01:03:58,800
talking about around around yeah that's

1212
01:04:06,260 --> 01:04:01,980
the one Wow okay that's incredible one

1213
01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:06,270
that's directly over my head yes yes and

1214
01:04:13,820 --> 01:04:08,550
that's the reason why I think I get a

1215
01:04:16,940 --> 01:04:13,830
lot of UFO photos which we'll see now

1216
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:16,950
let's go on to the next one okay this

1217
01:04:26,060 --> 01:04:21,330
one was taken this is coffee pot rock

1218
01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:26,070
and Thunder Mountain and if you could

1219
01:04:36,740 --> 01:04:30,630
see at the top you'll see the ship going

1220
01:04:41,060 --> 01:04:36,750
across the sky and these were taken by

1221
01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:41,070
Kim Carlsberg I was over at her house we

1222
01:04:50,210 --> 01:04:45,780
had been doing some what we call psychic

1223
01:04:59,420 --> 01:04:50,220
circle and it's kind of like in a Ouija

1224
01:05:02,180 --> 01:04:59,430
type board type thing and I was a it

1225
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:02,190
kind of gave us instructions to go

1226
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:07,650
outside and oh you and and Kim said I'm

1227
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:12,660
grabbing my camera and so this is this

1228
01:05:19,370 --> 01:05:17,490
is what we saw going across and it was

1229
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:19,380
like they were just waiting for us to

1230
01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:23,730
get there and Kim had a motor on her

1231
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:27,240
camera so it was actually pretty quick

1232
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:30,810
that's cool as you can see it was the 3

1233
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:36,570
o'clock in the afternoon so yeah this is

1234
01:05:46,270 --> 01:05:41,250
you know and right it looks like this

1235
01:05:48,260 --> 01:05:46,280
right next to Thunder Mountain and

1236
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:48,270
coffee pot so

1237
01:05:54,290 --> 01:05:49,920
almost like it wanted you to see it yeah

1238
01:05:56,050 --> 01:05:54,300
yeah most definitely didn't like I said

1239
01:06:00,380 --> 01:05:56,060
Kim and I used to

1240
01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:00,390
it's a doing a Ouija board kind of thing

1241
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:05,100
it's not quite but you know it spells

1242
01:06:14,780 --> 01:06:10,640
out words and Tim his best friend is

1243
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:14,790
Daryl Anka in Los Angeles and Daryl Anka

1244
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:18,810
is also known as Bashar and they had

1245
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:23,250
studied meditation together and I don't

1246
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:25,290
know if you know but Shawna's Raz a

1247
01:06:36,260 --> 01:06:29,970
channeler yeah okay okay yeah and so we

1248
01:06:39,020 --> 01:06:36,270
were doing channeling and so that's what

1249
01:06:40,910 --> 01:06:39,030
Kim used to do it with with some bashar

1250
01:06:43,850 --> 01:06:40,920
so when she was in sudan that she did it

1251
01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:43,860
with me oh that's awesome okay yeah

1252
01:06:51,350 --> 01:06:46,590
coffee pot is a great restaurant as well

1253
01:06:52,970 --> 01:06:51,360
by the way the whole time we were there

1254
01:06:55,340 --> 01:06:52,980
hey wasn't there an old movie theater

1255
01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:55,350
that the locals used to go to up on

1256
01:07:04,870 --> 01:06:59,370
coffee pot Road it wasn't on coffee pot

1257
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:04,880
it was it was on I think it was on

1258
01:07:13,940 --> 01:07:09,170
soldiers pass or you know over there

1259
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:13,950
yeah that was a long time ago there used

1260
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:18,720
to be a white front there too yeah yeah

1261
01:07:23,030 --> 01:07:20,700
yeah yeah one of the locals was telling

1262
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:23,040
us about a local movie movie theater

1263
01:07:27,290 --> 01:07:25,290
that it was kind of you know just kind

1264
01:07:29,330 --> 01:07:27,300
of the locals knew about it and it was I

1265
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:29,340
I guess I don't know if that's in that

1266
01:07:35,570 --> 01:07:33,090
area or where you said it was is it near

1267
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:35,580
that area or is it a way further

1268
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:38,880
somewhere else here's the thing about

1269
01:07:46,730 --> 01:07:43,710
Sedona some really small towns further

1270
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:46,740
do you mean a quarter mile as opposed to

1271
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:49,770
a mile or you know everything is close

1272
01:08:02,040 --> 01:07:57,330
you're right right yeah and so I want to

1273
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:02,050
say probably a quarter mile from yes

1274
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:04,000
I had heard you speaking to somebody

1275
01:08:10,590 --> 01:08:07,630
else and you were talking about an old

1276
01:08:14,130 --> 01:08:10,600
John Wayne film I think and where the

1277
01:08:18,349 --> 01:08:14,140
camera pans up and they catch a UFO in

1278
01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:18,359
the in the shot yes and that happened

1279
01:08:28,829 --> 01:08:24,569
right over Bell Rock and that was in

1280
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:28,839
1947 and that's kind of when they really

1281
01:08:34,170 --> 01:08:31,120
discovered how much you know there was a

1282
01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:34,180
lot of crap going on in 1947 with

1283
01:08:43,559 --> 01:08:40,870
Roswell right yeah and so you know the

1284
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:43,569
guy the cameraman is just sitting there

1285
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:46,510
and he's in those days they had to

1286
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:50,880
actually turn the film with their hand

1287
01:08:59,370 --> 01:08:54,370
during filming and he's turning and and

1288
01:09:03,120 --> 01:08:59,380
he's following everything you know with

1289
01:09:06,090 --> 01:09:03,130
John Wayne and marine or O'Hair and then

1290
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:06,100
you know you could hear the conversation

1291
01:09:15,710 --> 01:09:09,970
and you know the lines being told but

1292
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:15,720
the camera pans up and there is a UFO

1293
01:09:24,809 --> 01:09:21,880
directly over Bell Rock hockey and he

1294
01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:24,819
does it it was like three or four

1295
01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:28,390
minutes of this and it kind of took off

1296
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:35,680
and you know the editor of the film said

1297
01:09:41,550 --> 01:09:38,080
that you know he had never seen anything

1298
01:09:45,870 --> 01:09:41,560
like this and for a long time there was

1299
01:09:48,990 --> 01:09:45,880
a timeshare office down there that

1300
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:49,000
played these old films and they had clip

1301
01:09:58,170 --> 01:09:55,210
of this but in 1970 finally in 1987 it

1302
01:09:59,540 --> 01:09:58,180
just disappeared oh man that's weird and

1303
01:10:06,780 --> 01:09:59,550
nobody knows where it went

1304
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:06,790
no no wow it was there one day and in

1305
01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:09,090
the next day a lesson I was there

1306
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:12,160
probably an 88 and I had heard the story

1307
01:10:15,649 --> 01:10:14,530
and I went in there and I asked to see

1308
01:10:18,890 --> 01:10:15,659
the clip and they

1309
01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:18,900
and yeah we just we don't know we think

1310
01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:22,440
somebody stole that how strange it was

1311
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:24,840
it's just gone you would think with all

1312
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:27,330
the movies that were shot out there and

1313
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:29,010
like with Walt Disney like you know

1314
01:10:32,689 --> 01:10:30,239
there's gotta be a lot of like

1315
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:32,699
interesting footage that just people

1316
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:35,460
have you know because I mean Sedona is

1317
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,260
pretty popular was pretty popular back

1318
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:39,840
in the day you know for movies and

1319
01:10:44,959 --> 01:10:42,210
things like that right you know oh yeah

1320
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:44,969
Elvis Presley bought a house on Verde

1321
01:10:51,979 --> 01:10:48,800
Valley School Road directly I mean just

1322
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:51,989
directly looking a side view of

1323
01:11:02,750 --> 01:10:56,580
cathedral rock his straight on and to

1324
01:11:07,879 --> 01:11:02,760
the right was you know Bell Rock and

1325
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:07,889
courthouse and to his left was a pyramid

1326
01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:10,350
the pyramid rock and the backside of

1327
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:12,540
airport means I mean he was up there on

1328
01:11:21,649 --> 01:11:18,060
this hill and perfectly perched and you

1329
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:21,659
say why was he out there it's because he

1330
01:11:29,450 --> 01:11:25,380
filmed stay away Joe out at the Bradshaw

1331
01:11:31,610 --> 01:11:29,460
ranch hmm and there were a lot of funny

1332
01:11:35,660 --> 01:11:31,620
things that happened and their only

1333
01:11:37,459 --> 01:11:35,670
reason he he insisted on uh you know if

1334
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:37,469
they kept on saying oh no you don't want

1335
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:40,320
to do Bradshaw and she could do any

1336
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:42,510
place as every I you know you really

1337
01:11:48,379 --> 01:11:45,840
don't wanna and he he insisted because

1338
01:11:51,470 --> 01:11:48,389
they had a phone out there see back in

1339
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:51,480
the day there was no iPhone job this is

1340
01:11:59,479 --> 01:11:56,820
what telephone first came out and Elvis

1341
01:12:01,459 --> 01:11:59,489
had happy next to his phone

1342
01:12:03,709 --> 01:12:01,469
oh yeah did you know you had to take

1343
01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:03,719
those calls when they came in if anybody

1344
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:07,620
had a phone it was Elvis right okay

1345
01:12:13,939 --> 01:12:11,489
anyway yeah let's go on to the third

1346
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:13,949
picture and okay because I when we get

1347
01:12:18,979 --> 01:12:16,110
to the Bradshaw ranch I can really start

1348
01:12:24,290 --> 01:12:18,989
talking about that yes but we you had

1349
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:24,300
asked about Cathedral Rock now this

1350
01:12:29,150 --> 01:12:26,880
third one is a black-and-white photos

1351
01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:29,160
taken by my friend Peter best

1352
01:12:38,060 --> 01:12:34,860
and he wanted to take some photos of the

1353
01:12:42,890 --> 01:12:38,070
full moon and I took them up to this

1354
01:12:45,170 --> 01:12:42,900
place called secret Mesa which is right

1355
01:12:47,540 --> 01:12:45,180
as you can see right in front of

1356
01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:47,550
cathedral rock II can't really see it

1357
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:53,340
because there's that odd light flare

1358
01:12:59,930 --> 01:12:56,760
lens flares or satellite almost right

1359
01:13:01,760 --> 01:12:59,940
and if you will see that these lens

1360
01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:01,770
flares don't really look like lens

1361
01:13:09,290 --> 01:13:04,760
flares they look like orbs this change

1362
01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:09,300
but yeah and but to the right that big

1363
01:13:15,740 --> 01:13:13,980
flare up that is the full moon and this

1364
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:15,750
was the only photo that really turned

1365
01:13:24,710 --> 01:13:19,410
out like this so I figured I would

1366
01:13:27,380 --> 01:13:24,720
include here one this is my husband

1367
01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:27,390
standing at the gate which is now the

1368
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:32,670
gate of Bradshaw ranch and Bradshaw

1369
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:37,370
ranch has been taken over by Arizona

1370
01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:41,940
State University and they are creating a

1371
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,030
90 acre GMO garden oh no really

1372
01:13:54,710 --> 01:13:51,120
which GMO you know it's creepy enough

1373
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:54,720
but um you know look at you there's

1374
01:14:00,500 --> 01:13:57,840
nothing out there who are they who are

1375
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:00,510
they making all that food for yeah it's

1376
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:01,770
almost like they're just gonna test

1377
01:14:06,290 --> 01:14:04,170
things and see you know it's like you're

1378
01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:06,300
gonna you're gonna grow 90 acres worth

1379
01:14:13,460 --> 01:14:09,150
of food and you're gonna just coffin

1380
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:13,470
yeah that doesn't make any sense okay so

1381
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:17,820
a Bradshaw ranch is known for some

1382
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:21,120
pretty high strangeness now about three

1383
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,330
weeks ago I'll send you a link to this

1384
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:26,520
maybe you can also put it with your

1385
01:14:38,570 --> 01:14:33,510
podcast but there was a sighting of 200

1386
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:38,580
a convoy of 200 military vehicles wow

1387
01:14:42,620 --> 01:14:41,610
that went through Sedona and down Dry

1388
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:42,630
Creek Ranch and

1389
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:46,110
appeared Wow you know if you look they

1390
01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:48,690
could have gone to different places at

1391
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:52,020
the end of Dry Creek Road you can go

1392
01:14:59,960 --> 01:14:55,890
left and go to Bradshaw ranch

1393
01:15:05,030 --> 01:14:59,970
org or circle way around you know

1394
01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:05,040
horrible roads dirt roads for seven

1395
01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:09,510
miles and get back on 89a or you can

1396
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:14,460
turn right and go into the enchantment

1397
01:15:25,870 --> 01:15:18,510
resort now if you think about the

1398
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:25,880
enchantment resort it is a really

1399
01:15:36,140 --> 01:15:29,790
high-end five-star you know five

1400
01:15:40,490 --> 01:15:36,150
diamonds yeah yeah hotel and yeah we're

1401
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:40,500
below any bad are you know I personally

1402
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:55,880
Jagger cage Hilary Swank Barbra

1403
01:16:02,060 --> 01:15:57,600
Streisand so you know just the people

1404
01:16:07,340 --> 01:16:02,070
that I think yeah yeah you know because

1405
01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:07,350
you know I was a very lazy tour guide I

1406
01:16:13,190 --> 01:16:10,620
didn't I knew that the best part of the

1407
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:13,200
vortex out at Boynton Canyon was that

1408
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:16,170
the enchantment so I would take my

1409
01:16:21,170 --> 01:16:19,050
clients there forty and we would sit

1410
01:16:23,420 --> 01:16:21,180
outside where you know they have this

1411
01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:23,430
beautiful balcony that looked up into

1412
01:16:30,710 --> 01:16:26,940
the Kachina woman who do and he had the

1413
01:16:37,250 --> 01:16:30,720
beautiful outdoor piano player and we

1414
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:37,260
would order our $7 cups of tea and I

1415
01:16:44,660 --> 01:16:40,860
would give them a reading there's a lot

1416
01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:44,670
of fun yeah anyway but so here here it

1417
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:48,030
is this is what it looks like now you

1418
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:53,570
can see that it is a 10-foot kid

1419
01:16:59,620 --> 01:16:57,770
and it is you know there's like some

1420
01:17:06,149 --> 01:16:59,630
cattle or some goat wire going around

1421
01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:06,159
yeah it's padlocked and and at one point

1422
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:10,460
a few years ago there are so many people

1423
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:12,770
that came on to the ranch that they

1424
01:17:19,180 --> 01:17:15,650
pushed down a piece of the fence back

1425
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:19,190
here and you know you just walked in you

1426
01:17:27,550 --> 01:17:22,369
just stepped over the fence and walked

1427
01:17:31,209 --> 01:17:27,560
in and but now you can't and I do know

1428
01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:31,219
somebody who tried who scaled the fence

1429
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:35,510
right here and started walking and doing

1430
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:43,010
his naru to run to the ranch house or

1431
01:17:48,399 --> 01:17:45,409
the I guess the ranch house is still

1432
01:17:51,790 --> 01:17:48,409
partially there but to the windmill and

1433
01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:51,800
by the time that he got up there the

1434
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:54,380
Forest Service was there they arrested

1435
01:18:03,250 --> 01:17:58,570
him and they had a duty servicemen

1436
01:18:08,530 --> 01:18:03,260
guarding this guy said he does you know

1437
01:18:11,109 --> 01:18:08,540
this is way out there out there and you

1438
01:18:13,419 --> 01:18:11,119
know now they're planting some plants

1439
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:13,429
and you know they're watching that I

1440
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:18,320
understand are going to build a dorm out

1441
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:21,290
there for the students that are studying

1442
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:26,239
these plants and but this guy said that

1443
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,360
you know he and he was there kind of

1444
01:18:32,979 --> 01:18:31,280
early in the morning about 8 o'clock in

1445
01:18:37,780 --> 01:18:32,989
the morning there wasn't anybody around

1446
01:18:40,959 --> 01:18:37,790
and he drove over and parked his car

1447
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:40,969
scaled the fence and ran in and these

1448
01:18:47,290 --> 01:18:45,679
guys were on him so quick he said I have

1449
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:47,300
no idea where they came from

1450
01:18:55,660 --> 01:18:50,050
Wow and there were two forest rangers

1451
01:19:01,240 --> 01:18:55,670
huh and he was arrested he would he got

1452
01:19:09,790 --> 01:19:04,540
I think he spent four days in jail and

1453
01:19:10,540 --> 01:19:09,800
he cannot go into a national force for

1454
01:19:13,899 --> 01:19:10,550
the rest of his life

1455
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:13,909
oh-ho bummer and for life bummer

1456
01:19:21,070 --> 01:19:18,679
I'm the forest path now that here's the

1457
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:21,080
thing about Bradshaw ranch they are

1458
01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:23,810
there they're there you don't have to

1459
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,150
trust pests you can get right up to the

1460
01:19:32,140 --> 01:19:28,640
to the fence line and you can call them

1461
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:32,150
over we can say this is as far as I

1462
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:35,690
could go you know it can be a little

1463
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:38,330
closer to the fence so what all right

1464
01:19:44,459 --> 01:19:40,610
hello yeah I just wanted to say I'm

1465
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:44,469
extrapolating extract extrapolating

1466
01:19:49,450 --> 01:19:47,120
these security guards whoever they are

1467
01:19:50,410 --> 01:19:49,460
are less than normal they're they're

1468
01:19:52,899 --> 01:19:50,420
more than normal

1469
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:52,909
they're there it seems like they're very

1470
01:19:57,490 --> 01:19:55,730
serious it seems like they're you know

1471
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:57,500
they're aware of you before you even get

1472
01:20:03,160 --> 01:19:59,840
there it sounds almost like you know

1473
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:03,170
analogous to the area 51 kind of guards

1474
01:20:06,130 --> 01:20:04,640
like they know you're there and they

1475
01:20:08,410 --> 01:20:06,140
will approach you and they will arrest

1476
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:08,420
you I just think that's something to

1477
01:20:17,250 --> 01:20:12,170
note I I think it's always pretty much

1478
01:20:21,250 --> 01:20:17,260
been that way I for as long as I've been

1479
01:20:24,430 --> 01:20:21,260
here and going out there I went out

1480
01:20:32,919 --> 01:20:24,440
there with Tom dongho um it is so many

1481
01:20:36,700 --> 01:20:32,929
years ago and you know he was telling me

1482
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:36,710
about how you know you would never want

1483
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:41,840
to mention the military base out there

1484
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:44,960
you know and yeah for sure never tell

1485
01:20:51,370 --> 01:20:47,600
anybody about the earthquakes and the

1486
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:51,380
sound of I don't know if you ever seen

1487
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:57,040
those those mole type Tunnel makers but

1488
01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:00,560
they do have them they they are these

1489
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:04,340
laser big giant machines and they get

1490
01:21:08,919 --> 01:21:07,610
down and they can just make a tunnel

1491
01:21:11,379 --> 01:21:08,929
well that's crazy

1492
01:21:14,199 --> 01:21:11,389
telling me tomorrow yeah

1493
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:14,209
the Air Force has them you can even see

1494
01:21:21,009 --> 01:21:17,449
photos of them on the internet if you go

1495
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:21,019
look for the tunnel makers and but you

1496
01:21:24,669 --> 01:21:22,729
know we never talked about the sound

1497
01:21:26,770 --> 01:21:24,679
that they make and the people that hear

1498
01:21:30,429 --> 01:21:26,780
these so you just hear it from above

1499
01:21:34,810 --> 01:21:30,439
ground a you can yeah there's been

1500
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:34,820
earthquakes out there now if you look at

1501
01:21:49,509 --> 01:21:46,540
west of Flagstaff in is this place

1502
01:21:55,209 --> 01:21:49,519
called Belmont and it's like one of the

1503
01:21:58,739 --> 01:21:55,219
largest military bases in Arizona and

1504
01:22:02,319 --> 01:21:58,749
then you can draw a straight line

1505
01:22:09,509 --> 01:22:02,329
straight due south and end up at

1506
01:22:14,469 --> 01:22:09,519
Bradshaw ranch whoa that's crazy and so

1507
01:22:18,369 --> 01:22:14,479
yeah there's been people who have gone

1508
01:22:22,599 --> 01:22:18,379
out there hiking and I remember some

1509
01:22:26,379 --> 01:22:22,609
clients of mine actually I had taken

1510
01:22:29,739 --> 01:22:26,389
them out there one day and did the whole

1511
01:22:31,810 --> 01:22:29,749
tour of Bradshaw ranch and the next day

1512
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:31,820
they wanted to go out on their own and

1513
01:22:38,969 --> 01:22:35,689
hiked deeper into Lloyd Canyon which is

1514
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:38,979
the canyon right behind Bretta and

1515
01:22:46,569 --> 01:22:43,030
there's a lot of Indian petroglyphs and

1516
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:46,579
ruins and the halacha

1517
01:22:51,009 --> 01:22:49,369
the heritage site is out there would you

1518
01:22:52,419 --> 01:22:51,019
have photos that you sent us and we'll

1519
01:22:56,169 --> 01:22:52,429
get into that a little later right I

1520
01:23:00,399 --> 01:22:56,179
mean there's sure sure I I have I've got

1521
01:23:03,609 --> 01:23:00,409
a couple that I sent you here but these

1522
01:23:09,429 --> 01:23:03,619
women went back there and they said that

1523
01:23:11,979 --> 01:23:09,439
they came across like this cage kind of

1524
01:23:17,409 --> 01:23:11,989
you know like what you would expect a

1525
01:23:20,139 --> 01:23:17,419
dog one to be made out of with that kind

1526
01:23:24,530 --> 01:23:20,149
of fencing and and it was covered with

1527
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:24,540
tarps and the tarps were

1528
01:23:31,700 --> 01:23:28,490
you know very blended in they were

1529
01:23:35,540 --> 01:23:31,710
obviously they didn't want anybody to

1530
01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:35,550
find it but this one lady that she was a

1531
01:23:38,330 --> 01:23:36,270
crack-up

1532
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:38,340
she just marched over there ripped one

1533
01:23:45,410 --> 01:23:40,290
of the tarps off and she said there were

1534
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:45,420
all these silver boxes oh and as soon as

1535
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:48,150
she did that she said she got the worst

1536
01:24:00,170 --> 01:23:54,690
headache and in her mind she heard back

1537
01:24:04,130 --> 01:24:00,180
up and leave now do not approach back up

1538
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:04,140
and and she had the chute and her she

1539
01:24:10,970 --> 01:24:07,040
looked over at her friend and her friend

1540
01:24:15,370 --> 01:24:10,980
was practically crawling on the ground

1541
01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:15,380
because her head was like really

1542
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:18,120
exploding well it's like sign technology

1543
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:22,770
or something yeah and and so they they

1544
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:26,880
hiked out of there and but they they did

1545
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:31,040
call me after that and told me the story

1546
01:24:38,510 --> 01:24:35,760
so I you know for anybody listening if

1547
01:24:44,030 --> 01:24:38,520
you want to go out there the Bradshaw

1548
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:44,040
ranch is not like skinwalker ranch where

1549
01:24:55,730 --> 01:24:51,690
it's more beloved you know it's very

1550
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:55,740
loving it's helpful it's not mean or

1551
01:25:00,380 --> 01:24:58,140
aggressive in any way so it's the light

1552
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:00,390
side of skinwalker ranch bases they say

1553
01:25:05,810 --> 01:25:02,130
it's the lighter side it's it's a nice

1554
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:05,820
yes I've never I mean I've had people

1555
01:25:12,970 --> 01:25:08,970
have really interesting experiences and

1556
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:12,980
and maybe some jokes told on them but

1557
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:17,040
nothing has been you know horrific and

1558
01:25:19,490 --> 01:25:18,960
monster like what do you think Dan

1559
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:19,500
Walker

1560
01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:21,630
what do you think these these maybe some

1561
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,670
of these unsuspecting students that are

1562
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:25,520
going to have to stay out there and work

1563
01:25:35,690 --> 01:25:32,880
I am curious question for them to you

1564
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:35,700
know go screaming out of there I don't

1565
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:37,410
know what to say

1566
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:39,210
they may have any reply through the

1567
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:43,410
story of how Linda Bradshaw when she

1568
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:47,280
first was building the house out there

1569
01:25:55,310 --> 01:25:51,210
there were weird things that were

1570
01:25:59,000 --> 01:25:55,320
happening and her and Bob you know were

1571
01:26:05,180 --> 01:25:59,010
building this house and and it was in

1572
01:26:08,150 --> 01:26:05,190
the I want to say early 80s and she

1573
01:26:11,930 --> 01:26:08,160
started noticing some pretty weird stuff

1574
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:11,940
right away so she always had her camera

1575
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:15,810
and there's something about Bradshaw

1576
01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:19,440
ranch that we say you know take random

1577
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:26,790
photos often but she Linda started this

1578
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:29,190
is like she could fill them she could

1579
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:30,930
you know one time she said she could

1580
01:26:37,190 --> 01:26:34,800
feel one kind of like snake-like or just

1581
01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:37,200
a wrapping itself between her legs

1582
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:39,870
mm-hmm yeah while she was doing the

1583
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:45,920
dishes like a little whoopee anyway but

1584
01:26:58,150 --> 01:26:49,950
she had been taking photos as one night

1585
01:27:03,860 --> 01:26:58,160
and when she developed the photos she

1586
01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:03,870
discovered that some entity picked up

1587
01:27:09,860 --> 01:27:07,260
the camera was taking photos of the

1588
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:09,870
entire interior of the house while she

1589
01:27:13,970 --> 01:27:22,000
Oh

1590
01:27:38,270 --> 01:27:35,630
anyway sleep oh my god those days they

1591
01:27:41,900 --> 01:27:38,280
didn't have yeah you know you could look

1592
01:27:46,430 --> 01:27:41,910
at your photos you know you take it you

1593
01:27:49,150 --> 01:27:46,440
can look at it download it they would

1594
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:49,160
take photos and they would only use

1595
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:50,930
slides well

1596
01:27:56,260 --> 01:27:53,690
slides for cheaper but they would never

1597
01:27:58,530 --> 01:27:56,270
know what they had until they would take

1598
01:28:02,050 --> 01:27:58,540
it into Walgreens into the one hour

1599
01:28:04,570 --> 01:28:02,060
processing and then take it home and so

1600
01:28:07,090 --> 01:28:04,580
it'd be like you know the next night 24

1601
01:28:09,340 --> 01:28:07,100
hours later they're going through their

1602
01:28:13,570 --> 01:28:09,350
slides and they're seeing what they have

1603
01:28:15,730 --> 01:28:13,580
and don't have and you know it's not

1604
01:28:17,710 --> 01:28:15,740
like when I first started going out

1605
01:28:22,030 --> 01:28:17,720
there the Bradshaw and I was taking

1606
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:22,040
pictures my old six mag digital camera

1607
01:28:29,770 --> 01:28:24,490
which I know no one and a half made

1608
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:29,780
really great it you know I could still

1609
01:28:34,450 --> 01:28:32,150
look at them and I didn't know what they

1610
01:28:37,630 --> 01:28:34,460
were so likely did a whole bunch of

1611
01:28:40,660 --> 01:28:37,640
stuff oh man you know that I am now just

1612
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:40,670
kicking myself get enough stuff like

1613
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:44,930
this like this next one I don't I don't

1614
01:28:52,750 --> 01:28:48,650
it's oh I called it blood moon so if

1615
01:28:56,220 --> 01:28:52,760
anybody's looking in him this is an

1616
01:28:59,020 --> 01:28:56,230
orange orb that went over Bradshaw ranch

1617
01:29:03,180 --> 01:28:59,030
like a street going across the sky there

1618
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:03,190
yeah and yeah I took this with you know

1619
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:07,910
kind of a time-lapse yeah and I didn't I

1620
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:10,970
did not see this when I took the

1621
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:13,040
time-lapse I was just trying to get the

1622
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:16,400
stars as you can see and there's the

1623
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,890
streak in it in this one I have a whole

1624
01:29:24,810 --> 01:29:20,960
bunch of these but this is the one that

1625
01:29:28,750 --> 01:29:24,820
I have this kind of weird streak and

1626
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:28,760
this is a [\h__\h] that shows that kind of

1627
01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:31,910
looks like a heart I don't know that's

1628
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:33,740
interesting because especially with

1629
01:29:39,850 --> 01:29:35,600
time-lapse because it's showing the the

1630
01:29:42,130 --> 01:29:39,860
the I guess the ocean yeah the direction

1631
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:42,140
of all the stars but this orb is in one

1632
01:29:48,370 --> 01:29:47,930
spot yeah that's yeah and it was pretty

1633
01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:48,380
weird

1634
01:29:54,450 --> 01:29:50,990
meet me okay meaning that it stayed in

1635
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:54,460
one place the whole throughout I mean

1636
01:30:00,340 --> 01:29:58,130
relatively the same place right but all

1637
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:00,350
right what yeah but you didn't see it

1638
01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:02,530
while you were okay I

1639
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:05,950
see with my with my I at all I guess the

1640
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:09,490
until I took a I took the photo and then

1641
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:13,330
I saw at my camera and I took a probably

1642
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:16,150
four or five more photos of it but this

1643
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:18,970
one came out the best wow that's cool

1644
01:30:22,590 --> 01:30:20,650
okay so we're skipping to the now okay

1645
01:30:30,780 --> 01:30:22,600
so then and this one is called the blue

1646
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:30,790
orb and he's always got a reason why he

1647
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:31,390
looks happy

1648
01:30:37,290 --> 01:30:34,510
I just love this guy

1649
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:37,300
yeah he's a good-looking guy he was

1650
01:30:50,430 --> 01:30:46,510
happy yeah yeah Linda Bradshaw was the

1651
01:30:52,770 --> 01:30:50,440
first one in 1987 to start getting orbs

1652
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:52,780
in her photos and they came from

1653
01:31:01,530 --> 01:30:56,530
Bradshaw ranch and now there are orbs

1654
01:31:04,050 --> 01:31:01,540
all over the world so you know just to

1655
01:31:08,610 --> 01:31:04,060
kind of keep that in mind now this is a

1656
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:08,620
blow-up I was with Tonya mad inferred

1657
01:31:20,580 --> 01:31:14,710
anybody that knows her she's a movie

1658
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:20,590
producer and she does a lot of films in

1659
01:31:30,930 --> 01:31:26,410
Germany and but she did stranger at the

1660
01:31:33,180 --> 01:31:30,940
Pentagon was one of her films and so I

1661
01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:33,190
was with Tanya mad inferred and Kim

1662
01:31:43,890 --> 01:31:41,590
Carlsberg Kim Carlsberg is author of the

1663
01:31:48,710 --> 01:31:43,900
articles of count I'm sorry

1664
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:48,720
the art of Close Encounters and and

1665
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:53,130
Victoria Albright and Victoria Albright

1666
01:32:01,790 --> 01:31:56,110
arrays of Minsky just wrote a story

1667
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:01,800
about her called Victoria's Secret and

1668
01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:06,910
yeah and and she was she's been a

1669
01:32:12,180 --> 01:32:09,070
contacting and an experienced here for

1670
01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:12,190
many many years so I'm with you know and

1671
01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:15,460
me so there's the four of us

1672
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:19,420
and partly where we were doing that Kim

1673
01:32:27,290 --> 01:32:22,810
and I were doing the channeling and we

1674
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:27,300
got a message you know to go outside and

1675
01:32:39,170 --> 01:32:34,960
you know that so we go outside and Tania

1676
01:32:44,370 --> 01:32:39,180
is like almost speaking in tongues and

1677
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:44,380
this so I took a photo of them and I saw

1678
01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:48,490
this blue orb over her and this is a

1679
01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:52,780
blow-up of that Wow I mean yeah all

1680
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:54,820
jokes aside I mean yeah it looks like

1681
01:33:00,750 --> 01:32:56,530
there's a face and a nose and a mouth

1682
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:00,760
but I mean the thing to realize I I like

1683
01:33:04,190 --> 01:33:02,290
to joke every now and then but it does

1684
01:33:07,170 --> 01:33:04,200
really look like there's a face in there

1685
01:33:08,910 --> 01:33:07,180
and that might just be the human you

1686
01:33:11,580 --> 01:33:08,920
know the frontal lobe kind of making

1687
01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:11,590
patterns but I mean let's let's let's be

1688
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:13,420
real and talk you know if there's any

1689
01:33:16,740 --> 01:33:15,040
listener that's really new to this

1690
01:33:19,670 --> 01:33:16,750
subject and doesn't really know about

1691
01:33:22,530 --> 01:33:19,680
orbs I mean this is what I know I mean

1692
01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:22,540
there's these entities right there's

1693
01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:25,270
that could be alien that could be

1694
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:28,030
transdimensional that just kind of show

1695
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:29,830
up and the best evidence are these

1696
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:33,610
photos including the evidence that the

1697
01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:35,410
Stan Roman Act story and you can look

1698
01:33:39,870 --> 01:33:37,600
that up on Netflix I'm sure you know

1699
01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:39,880
about this joseline but there's amazing

1700
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:42,670
footage of these orbs these tiny little

1701
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:46,270
lights that coincidentally most people

1702
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:47,920
can't see them with your naked eye but

1703
01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:50,250
it's only when their photograph or video

1704
01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:53,350
that they kind of show up it's I think

1705
01:34:00,390 --> 01:33:56,280
there's a couple of photos here of when

1706
01:34:05,310 --> 01:34:00,400
I was out there the Lisa Romanek is one

1707
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:05,320
of my best friends oh yeah so I did go

1708
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:08,970
out to Bradshaw ranch with Stan and Lisa

1709
01:34:19,260 --> 01:34:14,650
and I do have a photo of a bunch of orbs

1710
01:34:21,210 --> 01:34:19,270
that came up that basically Lisa called

1711
01:34:26,190 --> 01:34:21,220
them and I think it's in this group

1712
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:26,200
let's go on and okay so here we go back

1713
01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:27,410
to

1714
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:35,270
because this have a really good layout

1715
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:40,250
of where you can go and watch for these

1716
01:34:45,340 --> 01:34:42,800
things and where they have been cited

1717
01:34:49,450 --> 01:34:45,350
before and you can see that there's a

1718
01:34:52,270 --> 01:34:49,460
red path that goes all the way around

1719
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:52,280
Bradshaw Ranch and there's been plenty

1720
01:35:01,330 --> 01:34:57,290
of sightings and weird things happen

1721
01:35:06,220 --> 01:35:01,340
right on that red path but I did note on

1722
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:06,230
here where some of the people up camped

1723
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:10,970
before and had experiences and where

1724
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:15,730
people have had Bigfoot sightings so

1725
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:20,450
amazing yeah I mean for those for those

1726
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:22,970
listening we're looking at an aerial

1727
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:27,170
view where Jocelyn has geographically

1728
01:35:31,690 --> 01:35:29,120
placed little markers like a legend on

1729
01:35:41,710 --> 01:35:31,700
the map of these places I'm sorry

1730
01:35:43,660 --> 01:35:41,720
Jocelyn I've got so excited but if

1731
01:35:45,670 --> 01:35:43,670
you're looking at this while we're

1732
01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:45,680
talking about it it's a it's such an

1733
01:35:50,290 --> 01:35:48,340
incredible Jocelyn I can't this is so

1734
01:35:51,790 --> 01:35:50,300
incredibly awesome that you did this

1735
01:35:57,730 --> 01:35:51,800
this is awesome I just wanted to say

1736
01:36:00,640 --> 01:35:57,740
that well I just you know want to warn

1737
01:36:04,170 --> 01:36:00,650
anybody that goes out there you have to

1738
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:04,180
have a four-wheel drive they are I

1739
01:36:12,490 --> 01:36:08,330
thought that they would smooth the road

1740
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:12,500
out a little bit more for the students

1741
01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:14,510
that are going out there but apparently

1742
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,440
they don't care about the roads yeah I

1743
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:25,040
had a friend that went out there

1744
01:36:30,220 --> 01:36:27,110
recently and broke an axle

1745
01:36:32,350 --> 01:36:30,230
oh no well they I mean they probably do

1746
01:36:34,570 --> 01:36:32,360
that to keep people from going out there

1747
01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:34,580
in the first place you bet yeah yeah

1748
01:36:40,170 --> 01:36:36,960
yeah yeah

1749
01:36:46,410 --> 01:36:40,180
absolutely whoo all right so we'll go on

1750
01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:46,420
now this is this is standing up on the

1751
01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:49,540
Mesa that's above Bradshaw ranch and

1752
01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:53,380
we're looking down into the actual ranch

1753
01:37:01,740 --> 01:36:59,440
in the bottom of Loy Canyon and this is

1754
01:37:04,140 --> 01:37:01,750
the way that it looked for many years it

1755
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:04,150
does not look like that now I'm not sure

1756
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:07,320
then the right in the middle is the

1757
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:11,530
Bradshaw ranch house I believe that

1758
01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:15,250
they're knocking that down to build the

1759
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:20,710
dormitory oh and the back buildings back

1760
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:23,080
there with the Corral's those are

1761
01:37:31,050 --> 01:37:26,380
already all gone and that area has been

1762
01:37:33,810 --> 01:37:31,060
piled up again they're building this

1763
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:33,820
huge garden they're growing all this

1764
01:37:43,770 --> 01:37:38,530
food out there and you just have to

1765
01:37:45,870 --> 01:37:43,780
wonder what their plans are yeah so this

1766
01:37:51,780 --> 01:37:45,880
is the University of Arizona right

1767
01:37:53,340 --> 01:37:51,790
is that who this is Bradshaw ranch right

1768
01:37:55,620 --> 01:37:53,350
but but the people that are building out

1769
01:38:01,560 --> 01:37:55,630
there is that University of Arizona this

1770
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:01,570
is the yet ASU Arizona State University

1771
01:38:08,190 --> 01:38:05,890
okay Flagstaff and I want to also you

1772
01:38:15,870 --> 01:38:08,200
know let's put an asterisk on this that

1773
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:15,880
ASU is the only University in the United

1774
01:38:24,750 --> 01:38:20,890
States that has every pathogen in its

1775
01:38:30,450 --> 01:38:24,760
lab oh yeah like anthrax and all that

1776
01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:30,460
yeah and so this the campus and

1777
01:38:35,190 --> 01:38:33,160
Flagstaff is always on high alert yeah

1778
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:35,200
yeah they were like a national Garrett

1779
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:39,370
you know one of those pathogens kids out

1780
01:38:45,450 --> 01:38:41,920
yeah that's no good you know some sort

1781
01:38:49,710 --> 01:38:45,460
of anthrax or something they can put

1782
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:49,720
that entire area on lockdown if you ever

1783
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:50,650
drive a

1784
01:38:58,770 --> 01:38:54,130
there and go visit the campus you will

1785
01:39:03,300 --> 01:38:58,780
see that there are 12 foot still fence

1786
01:39:05,610 --> 01:39:03,310
being around the entire campus Wow

1787
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:05,620
so they're there they're maybe not

1788
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:07,090
keeping something in there keeping

1789
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:12,640
people out yeah you know it's it's just

1790
01:39:19,620 --> 01:39:15,580
it's just dicey you know and you just

1791
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:19,630
don't you just don't know and but of

1792
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:23,530
course they are studying this is this

1793
01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:29,110
campus is well known for its biology

1794
01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:32,260
department I just find that their

1795
01:39:38,010 --> 01:39:35,590
purchase of Bradshaw Ranch to be an

1796
01:39:39,930 --> 01:39:38,020
interesting one yeah yeah it's also

1797
01:39:44,910 --> 01:39:39,940
weird that you would put college kids in

1798
01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:44,920
charge of that because I know as a

1799
01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:46,600
college kid I mean I wouldn't have

1800
01:39:56,370 --> 01:39:53,880
yeah yeah I think you have to be working

1801
01:40:00,750 --> 01:39:56,380
on your doctorate degree to have any

1802
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:00,760
access to them the reality is that it

1803
01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:02,830
could be anything right let's be

1804
01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:06,550
practical yeah I mean I want to think

1805
01:40:09,930 --> 01:40:07,780
that there's something weird going on

1806
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,940
but it could also be possible that

1807
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:11,440
there's some kind of biological thing

1808
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:12,790
that they don't want the public to look

1809
01:40:17,790 --> 01:40:15,490
at or see or report on it could be

1810
01:40:20,340 --> 01:40:17,800
anything that's why this podcast is so

1811
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:20,350
funny because we could actually contact

1812
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:22,090
these people and see like hey well

1813
01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:23,770
what's the public thing yeah what are

1814
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:25,150
you guys people yeah what are you guys

1815
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:26,830
up to over there we can extrapolate

1816
01:40:30,210 --> 01:40:29,260
right I can call you back Jocelyn and

1817
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,220
tell you what we found

1818
01:40:35,010 --> 01:40:32,560
that's right yeah that would be great

1819
01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:35,020
yeah okay let's go on to the next one

1820
01:40:45,060 --> 01:40:39,880
where it's called Bradshaw 56 yes this

1821
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:45,070
is a photo that I took with Lisa

1822
01:41:01,070 --> 01:40:52,480
Romanick I put in I I had a camera and

1823
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:01,080
with 12 exposures of infrared film and I

1824
01:41:05,380 --> 01:41:04,010
this this one came out

1825
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:05,390
and you can see that there's a

1826
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:09,290
triangular-shaped craft that is going

1827
01:41:15,940 --> 01:41:13,070
overhead now Lisa told me that she was

1828
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:15,950
going to send me the photo that she took

1829
01:41:25,810 --> 01:41:20,239
with her photo with with her camera but

1830
01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:25,820
she never did but her camera showed a

1831
01:41:31,540 --> 01:41:28,270
kind of a delta-shaped

1832
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:31,550
I want to say it look like a cloud of

1833
01:41:42,010 --> 01:41:39,410
some sort and but it this was probably 7

1834
01:41:45,820 --> 01:41:42,020
o'clock at night and it was freezing

1835
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:45,830
cold out there and and that's another

1836
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:48,770
thing about going out there to brush our

1837
01:41:55,420 --> 01:41:52,489
ranch during certain times you go out

1838
01:41:58,630 --> 01:41:55,430
there and it will they'll be a hot wind

1839
01:42:01,410 --> 01:41:58,640
like you would not believe and there'll

1840
01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:01,420
be other times she'll be out there and

1841
01:42:10,780 --> 01:42:05,750
the temperature will drop to like 17

1842
01:42:15,790 --> 01:42:10,790
degrees and you know well it does get

1843
01:42:19,630 --> 01:42:15,800
cold in the desert at night but I mean

1844
01:42:22,990 --> 01:42:19,640
this was this was extreme and it

1845
01:42:26,740 --> 01:42:23,000
happened often and this was one of the

1846
01:42:30,190 --> 01:42:26,750
times that this happened and all I

1847
01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:30,200
wanted right before we took these photos

1848
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:40,420
he's grumpy and he wants to go get a

1849
01:43:00,220 --> 01:42:55,860
he does not want to chase UFOs okay and

1850
01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:00,230
you know I'm with Kim and Lisa and I

1851
01:43:11,470 --> 01:43:08,000
think Victoria was there and oh and they

1852
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:11,480
have twin daughters and I think they

1853
01:43:16,750 --> 01:43:13,610
were still in high school just I mean

1854
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:16,760
beautiful beautiful girls and they were

1855
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:17,890
with us

1856
01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:22,090
and so you know it was sort of like Stan

1857
01:43:34,830 --> 01:43:29,200
and all these women and but anyway when

1858
01:43:40,460 --> 01:43:34,840
I took this photo for about ten minutes

1859
01:43:44,910 --> 01:43:40,470
I got so disoriented I I did not know

1860
01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:44,920
you know which way was up I had to sit

1861
01:43:51,480 --> 01:43:48,790
down right in the dirt and you know he

1862
01:43:53,630 --> 01:43:51,490
don't like temporary or to go and it's

1863
01:43:56,730 --> 01:43:53,640
like I don't know it was like my

1864
01:43:57,990 --> 01:43:56,740
internal gyroscope had been turned

1865
01:44:00,540 --> 01:43:58,000
upside down

1866
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:00,550
I think the I would have only been happy

1867
01:44:06,450 --> 01:44:02,890
if I were standing on my head

1868
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:06,460
honest to god man and but this that's so

1869
01:44:13,710 --> 01:44:08,650
that's the story that goes with this has

1870
01:44:17,550 --> 01:44:13,720
it whenever I got completely disoriented

1871
01:44:21,540 --> 01:44:17,560
and that is something that is pretty

1872
01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:21,550
common out there that people will go out

1873
01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:24,820
this is another reason why I say is like

1874
01:44:29,310 --> 01:44:26,950
you go out to Bradshaw ranch go with

1875
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:29,320
somebody don't go by yourself though

1876
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:33,520
there's two too many things that happen

1877
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:35,890
there's one time that I was out there

1878
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:40,090
with Kim and Kim and I used to do the

1879
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:44,050
vortex tour together and the night sky

1880
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:46,690
watched together because you don't go

1881
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:49,210
out there by yourself even his clients

1882
01:44:58,260 --> 01:44:54,810
but we were with our client and I

1883
01:45:00,840 --> 01:44:58,270
decided to walk that fence line and take

1884
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:00,850
some photos welcome was talking about

1885
01:45:06,930 --> 01:45:04,330
the history and you know the same thing

1886
01:45:10,110 --> 01:45:06,940
that we you have to be like a broken

1887
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:10,120
record yeah you know how yeah the

1888
01:45:16,740 --> 01:45:13,330
government got it by just saying yeah

1889
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:16,750
you need to sell it to us or or we're

1890
01:45:20,370 --> 01:45:18,880
gonna take it so you know coming to

1891
01:45:24,630 --> 01:45:20,380
we're gonna take it or we're going to

1892
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:24,640
take it so anyway she was doing that I

1893
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:27,280
walked along the fence I took these

1894
01:45:35,130 --> 01:45:31,449
photos I came back and when I got back

1895
01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:35,140
as you know this Irish woman and she has

1896
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:38,710
a temper and she shook her finger at me

1897
01:45:45,689 --> 01:45:40,719
and she said don't you ever do that

1898
01:45:47,490 --> 01:45:45,699
again and I was like no she says you've

1899
01:45:51,630 --> 01:45:47,500
been gone for two hours

1900
01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:51,640
whoa I said I've been gone for 20

1901
01:45:58,380 --> 01:45:53,830
minutes she said no we have been I was

1902
01:46:01,080 --> 01:45:58,390
just about to call the sheriff I we were

1903
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:01,090
we had looked everywhere for you

1904
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:09,040
and Anna and you had time so yeah so

1905
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:11,050
there that happened there was another

1906
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:16,960
time that we had gone out and I kind of

1907
01:46:24,660 --> 01:46:18,910
jumped over the fence I was walking

1908
01:46:28,410 --> 01:46:24,670
toward the house and I came back to the

1909
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:28,420
road and I was walking toward the front

1910
01:46:33,540 --> 01:46:31,360
gate and Kim was about I want to say

1911
01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:33,550
eight feet away from me and I said hey

1912
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:34,060
Kim

1913
01:46:40,169 --> 01:46:37,270
grab me some water and she acted like

1914
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:40,179
she didn't even hear me and I was just

1915
01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:46,000
sort of annoyed so I I came around and

1916
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:49,150
you know and climbed over the front

1917
01:46:56,130 --> 01:46:53,530
fence and walked toward the the car and

1918
01:46:59,100 --> 01:46:56,140
I'm talking and she is just you know

1919
01:47:03,680 --> 01:46:59,110
she's just talking over me and she's

1920
01:47:07,229 --> 01:47:03,690
acting like I'm not there and then I

1921
01:47:12,660 --> 01:47:07,239
pissed off at her about to reach for

1922
01:47:14,370 --> 01:47:12,670
this water and uh Kim you know is

1923
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:14,380
looking over toward the house because

1924
01:47:20,370 --> 01:47:17,050
now what happened to joseline and I said

1925
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:20,380
I'm right here and and you know and she

1926
01:47:27,930 --> 01:47:24,130
says anybody seen joseline and like I'm

1927
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:27,940
right here and I realize that she

1928
01:47:33,870 --> 01:47:30,610
couldn't see me well I had to retrace

1929
01:47:36,990 --> 01:47:33,880
all my steps and go back exactly the way

1930
01:47:39,060 --> 01:47:37,000
I went cross over the fence right where

1931
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:39,070
I crossed over the fence and as soon as

1932
01:47:42,959 --> 01:47:41,410
I crossed back over the fence she goes

1933
01:47:44,710 --> 01:47:42,969
oh there you are help me carry this

1934
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:44,720
stuff in no way

1935
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,450
so what made you think to do that to

1936
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:49,520
retrace her steps I mean most people

1937
01:47:58,650 --> 01:47:56,170
would be happy stories before that's why

1938
01:48:01,960 --> 01:47:58,660
she couldn't see you at all you you

1939
01:48:04,420 --> 01:48:01,970
basically didn't see me I had slipped

1940
01:48:09,250 --> 01:48:04,430
through you know I was like in a

1941
01:48:11,500 --> 01:48:09,260
parallel dimension that's the first

1942
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:11,510
story I've heard of that happening where

1943
01:48:16,270 --> 01:48:14,570
somebody slips in just randomly there

1944
01:48:19,180 --> 01:48:16,280
was a story that happened about maybe

1945
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:19,190
ten years ago it was all all over the

1946
01:48:24,580 --> 01:48:21,770
Internet at least in my newsfeed this

1947
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:24,590
guy was fixing his faucet under his sink

1948
01:48:31,480 --> 01:48:27,650
and kind of slipped in and found himself

1949
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,490
on a beach and found himself 20 years in

1950
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:32,000
the future

1951
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:35,600
right I took a picture there's a picture

1952
01:48:40,060 --> 01:48:37,730
I took a picture with himself and they

1953
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:40,070
both have the same tattoos I don't know

1954
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:42,290
if this was a fraud I haven't really

1955
01:48:46,060 --> 01:48:44,570
looked into it and in in 10 years this

1956
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:46,070
is the first time I heard of it I heard

1957
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:48,410
of it but I mean that's another notable

1958
01:48:53,020 --> 01:48:50,570
thing like there there seems to be some

1959
01:48:56,380 --> 01:48:53,030
kind of slippage that happens in certain

1960
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,390
spots that people purposely do it some

1961
01:49:00,310 --> 01:48:58,400
people just don't know what's happening

1962
01:49:02,020 --> 01:49:00,320
and yeah there's some there maybe

1963
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:02,030
there's some vortex that happens in a

1964
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:03,530
three-dimensional space that it just

1965
01:49:08,050 --> 01:49:05,690
happens so randomly that it just so

1966
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:08,060
happens to be underneath a guy's kitchen

1967
01:49:11,950 --> 01:49:09,770
saying yeah it's something like that and

1968
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:11,960
it kinda makes you wonder too like how

1969
01:49:17,740 --> 01:49:14,570
many times a day do you walk around and

1970
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:17,750
you go into this you know this other

1971
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:19,970
dimension right of some sort or you

1972
01:49:26,050 --> 01:49:23,690
slide somewhere else you know yeah on a

1973
01:49:28,990 --> 01:49:26,060
daily basis and we just never think

1974
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,000
about it or we never even notice it or

1975
01:49:33,550 --> 01:49:31,280
or it's a it's an a manifestation of a

1976
01:49:35,620 --> 01:49:33,560
reality that's so close to ours we

1977
01:49:37,870 --> 01:49:35,630
slipped into it and it's so similar that

1978
01:49:40,270 --> 01:49:37,880
there's little tiny changes like the

1979
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,280
Mandela effect yeah absolutely I mean I

1980
01:49:44,620 --> 01:49:42,800
might be stretching the the film here

1981
01:49:48,430 --> 01:49:44,630
but but anyway I think that's

1982
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:48,440
interesting to talk about but yeah so

1983
01:49:54,460 --> 01:49:51,770
Jocelyn we have some photos of some some

1984
01:49:56,410 --> 01:49:54,470
cave paintings and then there's there's

1985
01:49:58,239 --> 01:49:56,420
just there's one photo that I want to

1986
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,249
get to there's two actually two

1987
01:50:02,979 --> 01:50:00,320
okay well then let's hurry up and go

1988
01:50:06,759 --> 01:50:02,989
through these really quickly the next

1989
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:06,769
one is called Bradshaw man and this is a

1990
01:50:14,469 --> 01:50:11,210
photo that I took with again with Lisa

1991
01:50:18,759 --> 01:50:14,479
Romanek and off to the right I don't

1992
01:50:24,399 --> 01:50:18,769
know if you can see that there's a kind

1993
01:50:32,379 --> 01:50:24,409
of a weird gray creature and in the

1994
01:50:34,810 --> 01:50:32,389
middle of the orbs I see like right

1995
01:50:37,290 --> 01:50:34,820
above the treeline a little bit yeah yes

1996
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:37,300
up in the corner next to that big orb

1997
01:50:48,819 --> 01:50:43,489
yes yeah I do see that that's it okay so

1998
01:50:52,979 --> 01:50:48,829
now we'll go on now this is at woo ranch

1999
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:52,989
and the Native Americans talked about

2000
01:51:00,459 --> 01:50:56,960
the flying shields that's what they

2001
01:51:02,859 --> 01:51:00,469
called them the UFOs and that these

2002
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:02,869
creatures came out and they called them

2003
01:51:11,620 --> 01:51:09,110
lizard people and they had it oh and on

2004
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:11,630
the right hand side there's a depiction

2005
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:16,159
of how they would run with all fours Oh

2006
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:25,489
on the next I have some more photos when

2007
01:51:30,989 --> 01:51:27,199
you guys come I'm going to take you to

2008
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:30,999
this spot it's pretty it's it's like a

2009
01:51:41,410 --> 01:51:35,050
high energy spot the next picture is

2010
01:51:44,049 --> 01:51:41,420
actually walking into this area that has

2011
01:51:46,689 --> 01:51:44,059
all the petroglyphs and you'll see that

2012
01:51:50,319 --> 01:51:46,699
in those petroglyphs up on the upper

2013
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:50,329
left we're looking at code ward 11 right

2014
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:55,489
now whoo art 11 yes yes yeah that's

2015
01:52:02,080 --> 01:51:56,210
amazing

2016
01:52:04,450 --> 01:52:02,090
oh my god yes so in the middle of them

2017
01:52:08,779 --> 01:52:04,460
you can see that they came from the

2018
01:52:15,290 --> 01:52:08,789
Milky Way there is like this wavy line

2019
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:15,300
means Milky Way and they we were like

2020
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:18,960
ants to them this is the Native American

2021
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:22,050
talked of and they're a huge Giants and

2022
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:25,650
you can see that there that you know

2023
01:52:33,229 --> 01:52:29,010
they were like consider in the palm of

2024
01:52:36,799 --> 01:52:33,239
their hands Oh huge you're a Giants and

2025
01:52:40,180 --> 01:52:36,809
there's a tall white oh there's some

2026
01:52:43,819 --> 01:52:40,190
some handprints and about in the middle

2027
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:43,829
left and then right above the handprints

2028
01:52:47,779 --> 01:52:45,510
you'll see that there's some tall lights

2029
01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:47,789
and it's so cool and then they talk

2030
01:52:52,339 --> 01:52:49,860
about how they came out of their ship

2031
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:52,349
and you know they were just these are

2032
01:52:58,100 --> 01:52:55,440
really really tall white beans and that

2033
01:53:01,089 --> 01:52:58,110
you know they were friendly that's what

2034
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:01,099
the hands mean they were friendly cool

2035
01:53:09,879 --> 01:53:06,090
yeah Wow okay all right so we'll go on

2036
01:53:13,879 --> 01:53:09,889
but now this is also in that same Canyon

2037
01:53:16,759 --> 01:53:13,889
Ranch this is the bell-shaped craft that

2038
01:53:20,660 --> 01:53:16,769
came down and you can see the tall white

2039
01:53:23,779 --> 01:53:20,670
and here are the little red people that

2040
01:53:25,970 --> 01:53:23,789
are down and around at their feet you

2041
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:25,980
can see how small they were in

2042
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:29,730
comparison to this called white that

2043
01:53:38,899 --> 01:53:35,730
came absolutely it's hard to see but

2044
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:38,909
below that and to the right there's a

2045
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:44,130
red man who he's hugging this tall white

2046
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:47,010
creature yeah we can see that yeah Wow

2047
01:53:53,029 --> 01:53:49,170
and so is that supposed to be humans the

2048
01:53:55,490 --> 01:53:53,039
red ones yeah yeah they look like little

2049
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:55,500
children compared to the tall white no

2050
01:54:01,310 --> 01:53:58,170
obviously yeah the white is is depicted

2051
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:01,320
with white pigment pigment there's

2052
01:54:07,819 --> 01:54:03,690
obviously like a difference difference

2053
01:54:09,709 --> 01:54:07,829
between the the red pigment pigment and

2054
01:54:11,509 --> 01:54:09,719
then the white pigment that's that's

2055
01:54:16,279 --> 01:54:11,519
really that's really interesting is

2056
01:54:20,020 --> 01:54:16,289
where the the Native Americans this Bell

2057
01:54:22,930 --> 01:54:20,030
craft landed and

2058
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:22,940
the Native Americans went out there to

2059
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:25,730
see it and there was that tall light

2060
01:54:33,610 --> 01:54:28,850
there but that Bell craft reminds me a

2061
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:33,620
lot of the Adamski kind of right oh yeah

2062
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:38,090
yeah craft so all right so I'll go on

2063
01:54:44,110 --> 01:54:41,840
that is a photo of it coming in and I

2064
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:44,120
don't know if you can see on the upper

2065
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:50,090
right there are some little small gray

2066
01:55:01,630 --> 01:54:56,210
dots and that was the best photo that I

2067
01:55:04,750 --> 01:55:01,640
could get of them but they were not

2068
01:55:08,710 --> 01:55:04,760
Birds not the Hawks knowledge that they

2069
01:55:11,850 --> 01:55:08,720
they were flying around the entire time

2070
01:55:16,990 --> 01:55:11,860
that I was there taking these photos

2071
01:55:20,050 --> 01:55:17,000
yeah they're very very oh yes yeah and I

2072
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:20,060
could see them with my naked eye band

2073
01:55:26,530 --> 01:55:22,130
but they didn't really come out there

2074
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:26,540
was about six of them and they just kept

2075
01:55:33,130 --> 01:55:30,320
on going back and forth over this miss

2076
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:33,140
Canyon but that's what the canyon looks

2077
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:39,970
like and the right up to the left is

2078
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:43,930
where the photos that we were just

2079
01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:50,210
looking at yeah yeah here's another shot

2080
01:55:58,060 --> 01:55:55,670
of the white the tall white and there

2081
01:56:00,340 --> 01:55:58,070
are the hands right we're going on the

2082
01:56:02,590 --> 01:56:00,350
next photo looking at another right and

2083
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:02,600
as you can see I think I took this photo

2084
01:56:07,450 --> 01:56:05,150
because there's like hands underneath

2085
01:56:10,810 --> 01:56:07,460
they're kind of like layered like

2086
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:10,820
stacked yes and these were all the

2087
01:56:18,030 --> 01:56:14,450
people that when I went out with this

2088
01:56:22,090 --> 01:56:18,040
guy named red feather

2089
01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:22,100
Mikey red feather and he was an old man

2090
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:25,190
when he took me out there probably in

2091
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:30,530
his 80s and so he told me a lot of the

2092
01:56:38,010 --> 01:56:33,520
stories and he passed away

2093
01:56:41,610 --> 01:56:38,020
shortly after I took these photos so but

2094
01:56:45,210 --> 01:56:41,620
I think he told me more than he would

2095
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:45,220
have told more people because it's like

2096
01:56:58,770 --> 01:56:53,770
what else is he going to do doing this

2097
01:57:00,930 --> 01:56:58,780
photo is again you can see that the orbs

2098
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:00,940
come down and they're all the way down

2099
01:57:08,900 --> 01:57:03,760
into the trees oh yeah this is taken

2100
01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:11,910
remember I told you earlier that there

2101
01:57:16,380 --> 01:57:14,230
were these crafts that just kept falling

2102
01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:16,390
it kept on going back and forth there's

2103
01:57:23,220 --> 01:57:21,310
a canyon there this is another day but I

2104
01:57:24,990 --> 01:57:23,230
saw them again

2105
01:57:26,910 --> 01:57:25,000
and they they were coming right down

2106
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:26,920
into the trees as you can see on the

2107
01:57:31,950 --> 01:57:30,610
right-hand side yes yes you can see

2108
01:57:34,860 --> 01:57:31,960
they're all up in the sky and then

2109
01:57:36,630 --> 01:57:34,870
there's like one two three four maybe

2110
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:36,640
like right there in the trees like

2111
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:43,530
coming down right wow that's cool yeah

2112
01:57:50,820 --> 01:57:46,870
my naked eye they look so her to me and

2113
01:57:54,350 --> 01:57:50,830
the like a little silver dots alright so

2114
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:54,360
the next one is called Earth Circle and

2115
01:58:02,060 --> 01:57:58,000
this is Kim Carlsberg Tonya math

2116
01:58:05,250 --> 01:58:02,070
inferred and Victoria alright again and

2117
01:58:07,710 --> 01:58:05,260
we had this is the Creek right next to

2118
01:58:11,790 --> 01:58:07,720
my house as you can see it was winter

2119
01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:11,800
and was very cold that day but we had

2120
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:14,680
done a meditation and we decided to go

2121
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:17,650
down to the creek and I decided you know

2122
01:58:22,170 --> 01:58:20,230
I'll just snap a photo or two I didn't

2123
01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:22,180
look at these for probably two weeks

2124
01:58:29,580 --> 01:58:24,910
until after they were gone and I saw

2125
01:58:33,660 --> 01:58:29,590
this photo and I realized that there is

2126
01:58:37,020 --> 01:58:33,670
you know lens flares and all of that but

2127
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:37,030
there seems to go beyond the keen if you

2128
01:58:46,109 --> 01:58:41,520
look at all of these orbs they all have

2129
01:58:47,729 --> 01:58:46,119
faces in them like that previous

2130
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:47,739
so for people listening we're looking at

2131
01:58:52,020 --> 01:58:50,320
a photo it looks like a forest of some

2132
01:58:54,119 --> 01:58:52,030
sort there's dead leaves in the ground

2133
01:58:58,589 --> 01:58:54,129
there's three women and what looks like

2134
01:59:01,439 --> 01:58:58,599
robes or some kind of flowy so called

2135
01:59:04,949 --> 01:59:01,449
that before we walk down to the creek

2136
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:04,959
which is you know just about 300 feet

2137
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:09,610
from my house we went into the car and I

2138
01:59:17,879 --> 01:59:11,530
pulled out I had a couple of blankets

2139
01:59:19,500 --> 01:59:17,889
and blankets around them I did not

2140
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:19,510
realize they're going to look like three

2141
01:59:30,989 --> 01:59:28,570
pieces story and Tanya madam food is on

2142
01:59:35,879 --> 01:59:30,999
the left we're looking at the back of

2143
01:59:38,279 --> 01:59:35,889
Kim Carlsberg and Victoria Albright is

2144
01:59:41,219 --> 01:59:38,289
on the right and then there's this halo

2145
01:59:44,009 --> 01:59:41,229
this rainbow halo circ and circling all

2146
01:59:45,839 --> 01:59:44,019
three of these women and not a full

2147
01:59:47,939 --> 01:59:45,849
rainbow it's like this ultra violent

2148
01:59:49,649 --> 01:59:47,949
kind of blue then purple then yellow

2149
01:59:52,250 --> 01:59:49,659
then orange and then back to purple

2150
01:59:54,689 --> 01:59:52,260
violet and then back to yellow and then

2151
01:59:58,259 --> 01:59:54,699
orange it's this really beautiful little

2152
02:00:01,229 --> 01:59:58,269
ring you know who's to say what that is

2153
02:00:04,049 --> 02:00:01,239
I certainly can't can't say if that's

2154
02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:04,059
yeah a typical lens flare it certainly

2155
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:06,639
looks pretty perfect I don't know yeah

2156
02:00:11,069 --> 02:00:08,320
absolutely some sort of energy

2157
02:00:13,379 --> 02:00:11,079
surrounding you guys you guys meditated

2158
02:00:14,459 --> 02:00:13,389
down there I mean you know who knows

2159
02:00:18,330 --> 02:00:14,469
that's incredible

2160
02:00:20,189 --> 02:00:18,340
a little circle of a kind of protection

2161
02:00:23,699 --> 02:00:20,199
or some something I don't know it's kind

2162
02:00:25,739 --> 02:00:23,709
of cool yeah when I first got when I

2163
02:00:30,139 --> 02:00:25,749
first looked at this I couldn't stop

2164
02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:30,149
looking at it but you know these are all

2165
02:00:35,939 --> 02:00:32,649
experiences are all very powerful women

2166
02:00:38,609 --> 02:00:35,949
and so you really and it's in a vortex

2167
02:00:45,330 --> 02:00:38,619
is that you know right below the portal

2168
02:00:47,310 --> 02:00:45,340
I'm just just great behind them would be

2169
02:00:50,399 --> 02:00:47,320
the Jeep the center of the GPS

2170
02:00:55,589 --> 02:00:50,409
coordinate about I want to say about a

2171
02:00:58,130 --> 02:00:55,599
quarter mile so yeah it definitely looks

2172
02:00:59,330 --> 02:00:58,140
like they're being embraced to me

2173
02:01:02,300 --> 02:00:59,340
yeah that's a good way to put it

2174
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:02,310
absolutely yeah definitely yeah okay the

2175
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:05,610
next one is this is interesting this so

2176
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:09,410
we're looking case oh my

2177
02:01:19,010 --> 02:01:13,610
of course my whole family sees them and

2178
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:19,020
we had an experience my daughter was

2179
02:01:27,590 --> 02:01:22,770
going to school at Verde Valley School

2180
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:27,600
which is a boarding school high school

2181
02:01:38,020 --> 02:01:31,530
and it's just directly across the creek

2182
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:38,030
from us and so she had an experience

2183
02:01:44,390 --> 02:01:41,730
over there at the end of dirty Valley

2184
02:01:48,350 --> 02:01:44,400
School Road was made for Verde Valley

2185
02:01:52,250 --> 02:01:48,360
School which she was going to and she

2186
02:01:58,160 --> 02:01:52,260
had this experience and I asked she said

2187
02:02:02,450 --> 02:01:58,170
that you know she had this impression in

2188
02:02:04,460 --> 02:02:02,460
her head and I said well you know she

2189
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:04,470
could draw very well ever since she was

2190
02:02:09,710 --> 02:02:06,570
a tiny baby and I said well why don't

2191
02:02:11,540 --> 02:02:09,720
you draw a picture of what you saw and

2192
02:02:13,010 --> 02:02:11,550
this is what she drew and this is what

2193
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:13,020
she was in high school so this is

2194
02:02:17,660 --> 02:02:15,810
probably ten years ago this is very very

2195
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:17,670
detailed what we're looking at it it

2196
02:02:23,690 --> 02:02:21,330
looks like a typical tall white or tall

2197
02:02:29,300 --> 02:02:23,700
grey and there's like reflection on the

2198
02:02:33,470 --> 02:02:29,310
eyes there's detail I can't really yeah

2199
02:02:36,620 --> 02:02:33,480
so anyway this is my daughter's

2200
02:02:39,980 --> 02:02:36,630
rendering of one of the beans that came

2201
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:39,990
in to her bedroom when she was 30 Valley

2202
02:02:50,060 --> 02:02:43,170
school wow that's insane okay the next

2203
02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:50,070
one is this is a photo of two original

2204
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:56,400
photos that are dated 1961 and this is a

2205
02:03:01,730 --> 02:02:59,280
woman that lives here in Sedona and she

2206
02:03:07,490 --> 02:03:01,740
was really old and they were moving her

2207
02:03:11,990 --> 02:03:07,500
into a assisted living down in

2208
02:03:14,990 --> 02:03:12,000
Cottonwood 20 miles away and she

2209
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:15,000
asked she's one of her neighbors was

2210
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:18,570
helping her move out and he contacted me

2211
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:20,970
and he said well I see on Facebook that

2212
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:24,930
you you know post a lot about UFOs and I

2213
02:03:37,310 --> 02:03:28,530
have all these boxes of UFO stuff and

2214
02:03:43,570 --> 02:03:37,320
would you like to have it yes so in this

2215
02:03:53,300 --> 02:03:49,490
she had given me and these photos to

2216
02:03:56,690 --> 02:03:53,310
sell out and they are original photos I

2217
02:04:00,440 --> 02:03:56,700
have photos of the back side of them I

2218
02:04:02,630 --> 02:04:00,450
also have the negatives so I don't know

2219
02:04:04,850 --> 02:04:02,640
when these were taken I don't know

2220
02:04:07,630 --> 02:04:04,860
anything about them I only know that

2221
02:04:12,170 --> 02:04:07,640
they came from a really old lady in

2222
02:04:17,150 --> 02:04:12,180
Sedona that has been following UFOs and

2223
02:04:20,390 --> 02:04:17,160
has come to Sedona to watch the portals

2224
02:04:21,890 --> 02:04:20,400
or what have you she had definitely had

2225
02:04:23,540 --> 02:04:21,900
some sort of experience

2226
02:04:26,500 --> 02:04:23,550
that's incredible if you're listening

2227
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:26,510
and are following along in this photo

2228
02:04:33,530 --> 02:04:29,970
file folder it's called jocelyn sedona

2229
02:04:34,580 --> 02:04:33,540
image 0 i mean what we're looking at

2230
02:04:37,070 --> 02:04:34,590
just for people that are listening

2231
02:04:38,900 --> 02:04:37,080
driving on their way to work or home

2232
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:38,910
from work we're looking at the most

2233
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:42,570
clear photo of a flying saucer that i've

2234
02:04:47,390 --> 02:04:46,170
ever seen it looks insane it looks kind

2235
02:04:50,180 --> 02:04:47,400
of like this stuff that you would see

2236
02:04:52,790 --> 02:04:50,190
like a like the friendship case right

2237
02:04:54,710 --> 02:04:52,800
right you know something like that some

2238
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:54,720
of those photos and videos that they

2239
02:04:59,300 --> 02:04:56,970
have you know with the friendship case

2240
02:05:01,460 --> 02:04:59,310
yeah that's incredible which we need to

2241
02:05:02,990 --> 02:05:01,470
be an episode over yeah you know

2242
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:03,000
anything about the friendship case we

2243
02:05:12,260 --> 02:05:07,610
yeah yeah yeah

2244
02:05:15,610 --> 02:05:12,270
okay so the next photo i want to amuse

2245
02:05:21,100 --> 02:05:15,620
this because this is the illustration of

2246
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:21,110
how I feel when I'm in Bradshaw ranch

2247
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:25,770
this is the energy that if if I were

2248
02:05:35,180 --> 02:05:31,050
tell you what it felt like it would be

2249
02:05:40,900 --> 02:05:35,190
it you would feel like you were standing

2250
02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:40,910
in the middle of this and I had this

2251
02:05:51,110 --> 02:05:45,920
illustration in a poster posted on my

2252
02:05:53,060 --> 02:05:51,120
wall where I worked in my office I used

2253
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:53,070
to have an office right across the

2254
02:06:00,080 --> 02:05:56,370
street from Whole Foods in West Sedona

2255
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:00,090
and I had a huge poster I shared I

2256
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:03,210
shared the room with this Alpert and Liz

2257
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:08,460
Alpert is Richard Alpert nice which most

2258
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:12,330
people know him as Ram Dass and rich I

2259
02:06:19,820 --> 02:06:15,410
was going to say I thought I knew that I

2260
02:06:23,540 --> 02:06:19,830
Alpert does these incredible paintings

2261
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:23,550
and she also does jewelry so she rented

2262
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:26,250
out half of the office and I shared it

2263
02:06:34,910 --> 02:06:30,810
with her him we would both come in and

2264
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:34,920
just stare at this it seems to turn

2265
02:06:43,010 --> 02:06:38,970
something on inside but like I said I

2266
02:06:49,190 --> 02:06:43,020
only included this because I want you to

2267
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:49,200
know that this is the way that a vortex

2268
02:06:55,340 --> 02:06:51,920
feels this is the way the portals feel

2269
02:06:59,710 --> 02:06:55,350
it's right esta Milla stration and it

2270
02:07:03,020 --> 02:06:59,720
goes out for many miles matter of fact

2271
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:03,030
there's a similar illustration that was

2272
02:07:11,330 --> 02:07:07,440
really popular in Hawaii and the

2273
02:07:16,550 --> 02:07:11,340
Hawaiians believe that they came from

2274
02:07:18,980 --> 02:07:16,560
Sedona Oh interesting I've been told

2275
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:18,990
that by a Kahuna you know and there's

2276
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:22,770
big spiritual guys while he was in

2277
02:07:27,770 --> 02:07:25,250
meditation yes we are connected to

2278
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:27,780
Sedona because that's where we crawled

2279
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:31,930
out of the earth from hey you know what

2280
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:33,760
Boynton Canyon they might have had a

2281
02:07:40,830 --> 02:07:35,980
different name back then but yeah I mean

2282
02:07:43,980 --> 02:07:40,840
I oh yes well it was called it was

2283
02:07:49,230 --> 02:07:43,990
called the red the red the red area

2284
02:07:53,310 --> 02:07:49,240
basically to the south but the original

2285
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:53,320
name is Lou Wanda which is named for the

2286
02:07:57,890 --> 02:07:56,560
giant snake that used to protect the

2287
02:08:02,730 --> 02:07:57,900
area here

2288
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:02,740
okay so here's joseline image is number

2289
02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:06,730
2 and we see a UFO that is emerging from

2290
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:12,190
the class this is a photo that I had

2291
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:16,960
several photos of but I just blew up the

2292
02:08:25,620 --> 02:08:22,030
the thing that I thought was interesting

2293
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:25,630
and I was with a woman who is highly

2294
02:08:36,860 --> 02:08:30,640
intuitive and she says I keep seeing an

2295
02:08:41,370 --> 02:08:36,870
orca well and you know my Orca well and

2296
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:41,380
I said oh really so I started snapping

2297
02:08:47,370 --> 02:08:44,140
photos because the clouds I mean just

2298
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:47,380
you know it was just the air the air it

2299
02:08:56,450 --> 02:08:50,050
just seems like it was full of energy

2300
02:09:00,000 --> 02:08:56,460
and weirdness and so that's that's

2301
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:00,010
another UFO that was seen right over

2302
02:09:04,590 --> 02:09:02,890
Bradshaw ranch man it looks like it has

2303
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:04,600
like a blue beam coming out of the

2304
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:10,320
bottom of it yeah yeah that's cool Wow

2305
02:09:15,150 --> 02:09:12,850
does kind of look like an orca well he

2306
02:09:16,740 --> 02:09:15,160
does look like an orca with like a blue

2307
02:09:18,300 --> 02:09:16,750
beam coming out of the bottom of it

2308
02:09:21,930 --> 02:09:18,310
that's incredible

2309
02:09:24,810 --> 02:09:21,940
Wow okay so the jocelyn image is number

2310
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:24,820
three this is Steven Bassett and you can

2311
02:09:30,300 --> 02:09:27,520
see that we dressed him up as a man in

2312
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:30,310
black we're gonna ask like is that a

2313
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:31,570
real mini black

2314
02:09:39,270 --> 02:09:35,290
the old gate as you can see is posted no

2315
02:09:41,340 --> 02:09:39,280
trespassing and all of that and then

2316
02:09:43,530 --> 02:09:41,350
just at the end of his wood gate there

2317
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:43,540
is all pushed down and you can just step

2318
02:09:50,370 --> 02:09:47,650
over it and and you know walk on as a

2319
02:09:53,220 --> 02:09:50,380
story that goes with this is that

2320
02:09:56,210 --> 02:09:53,230
sometimes Kim and I would go out to

2321
02:10:00,960 --> 02:09:56,220
Bradshaw branch and we would find these

2322
02:10:03,690 --> 02:10:00,970
random things they were the most random

2323
02:10:05,490 --> 02:10:03,700
things that you could ever think but we

2324
02:10:09,810 --> 02:10:05,500
always picked him up and threw him into

2325
02:10:14,250 --> 02:10:09,820
the car and then later they came in

2326
02:10:16,650 --> 02:10:14,260
handy so the random makes it happen is

2327
02:10:20,130 --> 02:10:16,660
that we were going to we were going out

2328
02:10:24,420 --> 02:10:20,140
there or in a show of Steven Bassett and

2329
02:10:27,870 --> 02:10:24,430
and Kim had an idea to dress Steven

2330
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:27,880
Bassett as a man and black we've had

2331
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:30,850
everything but we did not have a black

2332
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:35,530
fedora and I mean we even stopped at a

2333
02:10:40,830 --> 02:10:37,810
couple of drift stores you know I

2334
02:10:42,930 --> 02:10:40,840
couldn't find anything and so Ken said

2335
02:10:46,620 --> 02:10:42,940
oh that's okay you know we'll just we'll

2336
02:10:53,340 --> 02:10:46,630
just take a photo of him and I swear to

2337
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:53,350
God that ever driving into a Bradshaw

2338
02:11:04,610 --> 02:10:57,840
ranch ever coming down that steep road a

2339
02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:04,620
black fedora is blown across the road

2340
02:11:12,510 --> 02:11:09,430
animus I can advance my hat and she

2341
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:12,520
talked cigars it jumps out she she grabs

2342
02:11:22,230 --> 02:11:15,840
it and as she feels like

2343
02:11:25,830 --> 02:11:22,240
brand-spanking-new and so we got our

2344
02:11:28,830 --> 02:11:25,840
black fedora and there was another time

2345
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:28,840
that we would have gone out there and I

2346
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:31,930
saw something shiny in the street and

2347
02:11:38,010 --> 02:11:35,770
you know we're we're headed out there

2348
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:38,020
we've got clients in the car I just

2349
02:11:43,740 --> 02:11:39,970
stopped and I get out there and there's

2350
02:11:44,279 --> 02:11:43,750
a brand new wrench it's brand new and it

2351
02:11:46,679 --> 02:11:44,289
almost

2352
02:11:48,379 --> 02:11:46,689
looks like it still has bubble wrap

2353
02:11:51,779 --> 02:11:48,389
around it or something

2354
02:11:55,259 --> 02:11:51,789
brand-spanking-new wrench and I like

2355
02:11:58,079 --> 02:11:55,269
okay so I just throw it into the car we

2356
02:12:00,779 --> 02:11:58,089
have a wonderful tour and then we go and

2357
02:12:03,270 --> 02:12:00,789
it's late and it's dark and our

2358
02:12:08,699 --> 02:12:03,280
batteries are low and so everything is

2359
02:12:14,219 --> 02:12:08,709
dim and the back of the car but the

2360
02:12:16,889 --> 02:12:14,229
hatch won't open one client said if I

2361
02:12:18,089 --> 02:12:16,899
only have a wrench I can open it for you

2362
02:12:20,039 --> 02:12:18,099
no way

2363
02:12:25,439 --> 02:12:20,049
so everything like everything you guys

2364
02:12:27,809 --> 02:12:25,449
found was like for a purpose that's yes

2365
02:12:30,599 --> 02:12:27,819
so these weird things would happen so

2366
02:12:36,529 --> 02:12:30,609
that's Steve Steve Bassett with the Hat

2367
02:12:44,369 --> 02:12:39,449
blow-ups and you can see that there's a

2368
02:12:48,139 --> 02:12:44,379
couple I circled a couple of UFOs that

2369
02:12:55,669 --> 02:12:48,149
we're going to that were like the one

2370
02:13:01,169 --> 02:12:59,489
but it lets you orbs those that are

2371
02:13:04,619 --> 02:13:01,179
circled that's what it looked like

2372
02:13:08,699 --> 02:13:04,629
before this one came out of the cloud on

2373
02:13:12,089 --> 02:13:08,709
the right so they just look like little

2374
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:12,099
black and white so were the people that

2375
02:13:18,750 --> 02:13:15,010
aren't seeing this is a huge cloud and

2376
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:18,760
it's got these round things that look

2377
02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:21,010
like almost look like googly eyes or

2378
02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:25,209
something yeah and but within a few

2379
02:13:31,529 --> 02:13:28,030
moments when they came out they they

2380
02:13:35,989 --> 02:13:31,539
looked a lot like this banana shaped or

2381
02:13:41,549 --> 02:13:35,999
orcish well shaped black and white UFO

2382
02:13:43,529 --> 02:13:41,559
and don't think I included the photo

2383
02:13:47,579 --> 02:13:43,539
there didn't come out very good anyway

2384
02:13:49,889 --> 02:13:47,589
man but that's I mean look super cool so

2385
02:13:52,259 --> 02:13:49,899
so he came here in the clouds

2386
02:13:55,829 --> 02:13:52,269
it's a da Madonna joseline image is

2387
02:13:57,300 --> 02:13:55,839
number 5 it's a simply a UFO that was

2388
02:14:00,350 --> 02:13:57,310
going over my house

2389
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:00,360
I was taking photos with the chemtrails

2390
02:14:07,770 --> 02:14:03,760
okay yeah yeah yeah I see the chemtrail

2391
02:14:11,730 --> 02:14:07,780
in the background I see a very dark it

2392
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:11,740
looks I mean like a very typical flying

2393
02:14:17,490 --> 02:14:13,930
saucer shape I mean it looks small from

2394
02:14:20,670 --> 02:14:17,500
this photo but well it was a very but I

2395
02:14:25,590 --> 02:14:20,680
didn't even see it until I downloaded

2396
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:25,600
the photo and I I've enlarged just that

2397
02:14:28,260 --> 02:14:27,310
part because I wanted to see what that

2398
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:28,270
was

2399
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:31,570
yeah and it's not a plane helicopter

2400
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:36,810
bird that insect it is you know a

2401
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:41,110
classic looking hat shaped yeah I didn't

2402
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:42,400
want to say hat but I'm glad you did

2403
02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:49,840
because it doesn't file okay the next

2404
02:15:00,500 --> 02:14:53,140
one is Sedona and she's never sick

2405
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:00,510
that's a bus ever saw the most beautiful

2406
02:15:08,010 --> 02:15:04,480
this was sent to me by clients who had

2407
02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:08,020
taken a helicopter tour they had sat

2408
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:12,450
through one of those 90-minute timeshare

2409
02:15:18,270 --> 02:15:14,530
presentation so they could get their

2410
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:18,280
free helicopter tour of Sedona which you

2411
02:15:25,380 --> 02:15:20,410
can do anybody that wants to come here

2412
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:25,390
you want free prizes you can always sit

2413
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:28,570
through a 90 minute tour of the

2414
02:15:36,420 --> 02:15:32,890
timeshares and off to the right that's

2415
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:36,430
called the Elephant Rock you can see

2416
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:38,290
that it looks live it's got a Sun that

2417
02:15:51,140 --> 02:15:44,970
sticks and so right behind this is

2418
02:15:53,790 --> 02:15:51,150
Belvoir courthouse Rock and the big wide

2419
02:15:58,740 --> 02:15:53,800
rainbow that you see coming straight

2420
02:16:03,300 --> 02:15:58,750
down it would be like around the Chapel

2421
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:03,310
of the Holy Cross so and in that area

2422
02:16:07,369 --> 02:16:05,890
but anyway I just thought this was very

2423
02:16:12,049 --> 02:16:07,379
interesting

2424
02:16:16,279 --> 02:16:12,059
it is a colorful photo it's red rocks

2425
02:16:24,549 --> 02:16:16,289
with snow on it which is always fun but

2426
02:16:30,709 --> 02:16:28,429
which which is indicative of rainbows

2427
02:16:33,889 --> 02:16:30,719
that come down in column oh absolutely

2428
02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:33,899
yeah well me what happens with Rory

2429
02:16:40,750 --> 02:16:37,969
rora borealis Jesus aurora borealis is

2430
02:16:43,399 --> 02:16:40,760
there's a magnetic effect that's why it

2431
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:43,409
becomes these crazy colors and you would

2432
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:46,170
not expect this to happen in Sedona like

2433
02:16:51,919 --> 02:16:49,050
what since it's highly magnetic yeah I

2434
02:16:56,809 --> 02:16:51,929
guess so there's some absolutely to that

2435
02:17:00,080 --> 02:16:56,819
there you go yes that was pretty fun all

2436
02:17:02,809 --> 02:17:00,090
right so the next one of Cydonia images

2437
02:17:06,019 --> 02:17:02,819
number seven this is a photo of a UFO

2438
02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:06,029
that I took that was directly over the

2439
02:17:11,870 --> 02:17:09,330
Cedro rock and I took this from my

2440
02:17:13,939 --> 02:17:11,880
backyard that's oh my gosh I was gonna

2441
02:17:16,700 --> 02:17:13,949
ask where you took it I mean that's

2442
02:17:20,660 --> 02:17:16,710
insane that's so it's like the

2443
02:17:26,059 --> 02:17:20,670
prototypical flying saucer shape it's

2444
02:17:28,820 --> 02:17:26,069
it's just perfect you know the weird

2445
02:17:33,410 --> 02:17:28,830
thing about it it's like I'm sitting in

2446
02:17:35,570 --> 02:17:33,420
my backyard I'm reading a book and I'm

2447
02:17:37,729 --> 02:17:35,580
just enjoying the day and I get this

2448
02:17:42,979 --> 02:17:37,739
thought go get your camera and take a

2449
02:17:46,669 --> 02:17:42,989
photo of the sky Wow so I did that

2450
02:17:49,759 --> 02:17:46,679
interests me so much Jocelyn like and

2451
02:17:51,769 --> 02:17:49,769
I'm not an intuitive I I mean obviously

2452
02:17:53,419 --> 02:17:51,779
you are and and some of your friends

2453
02:17:55,429 --> 02:17:53,429
that have captured these photos I'm just

2454
02:17:57,290 --> 02:17:55,439
you don't have to answer this now but

2455
02:17:58,969 --> 02:17:57,300
I'm just I think that's very special

2456
02:18:01,280 --> 02:17:58,979
like a lot of people that you know

2457
02:18:02,660 --> 02:18:01,290
aren't interested in this subject will

2458
02:18:04,129 --> 02:18:02,670
listen to this and think you know

2459
02:18:07,580 --> 02:18:04,139
they'll just kind of brush it off you

2460
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:07,590
know but you know what I have noticed

2461
02:18:15,530 --> 02:18:12,210
that people that have experienced UFOs

2462
02:18:19,780 --> 02:18:15,540
have seen them yeah they get an

2463
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:19,790
intuitive hit yeah I guess

2464
02:18:25,129 --> 02:18:22,800
it's gonna be there right because I can

2465
02:18:29,390 --> 02:18:25,139
feel on looking at me kind of thing

2466
02:18:33,320 --> 02:18:29,400
right and and I think when you know in a

2467
02:18:37,129 --> 02:18:33,330
quiet moment that Ben and Jill also get

2468
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:37,139
moments like that where you just you

2469
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,610
know a couple of episodes ago I kind of

2470
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:43,679
revealed to Joe that I had this really

2471
02:18:49,370 --> 02:18:46,530
weird dream and ever since I've never

2472
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:49,380
had this experience before but I I woke

2473
02:18:54,980 --> 02:18:52,800
from a dream and had this really strong

2474
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:54,990
feeling to go outside and I told Joe

2475
02:18:58,760 --> 02:18:56,850
this and and and our listeners and a

2476
02:19:01,730 --> 02:18:58,770
couple episodes ago that I really had

2477
02:19:04,610 --> 02:19:01,740
this this something was telling me go

2478
02:19:06,830 --> 02:19:04,620
outside but I was so terrified that I

2479
02:19:08,690 --> 02:19:06,840
did not do it because it was like 3:30

2480
02:19:11,750 --> 02:19:08,700
in the morning yeah three o'clock seems

2481
02:19:14,209 --> 02:19:11,760
to be like the magic moment and I am but

2482
02:19:16,730 --> 02:19:14,219
dude if I could go back I would do it in

2483
02:19:18,500 --> 02:19:16,740
a heartbeat I mean you never know what

2484
02:19:20,419 --> 02:19:18,510
you're gonna wake up what vibe you're

2485
02:19:22,669 --> 02:19:20,429
gonna wake up into but I mean I've got

2486
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:22,679
an it's like the strongest feeling and I

2487
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:25,650
can't explain it what it was but I guess

2488
02:19:31,129 --> 02:19:27,210
I'm just trying to relate to you Jocelyn

2489
02:19:33,650 --> 02:19:31,139
and and maybe it's my experiences were a

2490
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:33,660
little different than yours but that

2491
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:35,250
that's the closest I've ever gotten to

2492
02:19:40,340 --> 02:19:38,010
something that was not didn't feel like

2493
02:19:43,129 --> 02:19:40,350
my conscience and it didn't feel like a

2494
02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:43,139
residual dream it was like hey you need

2495
02:19:49,341 --> 02:19:46,550
to go outside we're waiting on you did

2496
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:49,351
well I you know I hate to break it to

2497
02:19:56,780 --> 02:19:53,490
you but sometimes even if you don't go

2498
02:20:01,370 --> 02:19:56,790
outside you still haunt the experience

2499
02:20:07,091 --> 02:20:01,380
because they say yeah I'm just yeah and

2500
02:20:09,350 --> 02:20:07,101
they don't have missing time and I would

2501
02:20:12,261 --> 02:20:09,360
you know when you come here to visit

2502
02:20:17,290 --> 02:20:12,271
I'll regress you Oh fine we'll get to

2503
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:20,150
there's a number eight I'm not going to

2504
02:20:25,540 --> 02:20:22,110
spend a lot of time on this this is just

2505
02:20:28,761 --> 02:20:25,550
the sign that is now at Bradshaw branch

2506
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:28,771
saying that you know oh yeah don't worry

2507
02:20:35,870 --> 02:20:31,370
about us we're just doing an

2508
02:20:47,780 --> 02:20:35,880
experimental garden 90 acres of food

2509
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:47,790
we're growing here that's was fine now

2510
02:20:55,940 --> 02:20:52,730
that house replaced do not incur danger

2511
02:20:58,640 --> 02:20:55,950
this is just another blow-up event is

2512
02:21:00,380 --> 02:20:58,650
the next one image is number nine that's

2513
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:00,390
just another blow-up of the one that we

2514
02:21:09,710 --> 02:21:07,050
had seen two photos ago the hats just

2515
02:21:17,801 --> 02:21:09,720
made it a little bit larger you could

2516
02:21:22,430 --> 02:21:17,811
see images number ten I was outside

2517
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:22,440
doing gardening and it was a very hot

2518
02:21:38,060 --> 02:21:30,960
and humid day and all of a sudden I mean

2519
02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:38,070
like all of a sudden the sky was a like

2520
02:21:46,940 --> 02:21:41,250
black-and-white TV except for this one

2521
02:21:50,630 --> 02:21:46,950
one piece where looked orange yeah and

2522
02:21:55,250 --> 02:21:50,640
so I went to go knowing that I live in

2523
02:21:59,810 --> 02:21:55,260
the portal I'm thinking oh yeah here's

2524
02:22:00,860 --> 02:21:59,820
somebody slowing down all right slow

2525
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:00,870
down like that

2526
02:22:09,020 --> 02:22:05,760
look at that ship so I didn't see the

2527
02:22:11,870 --> 02:22:09,030
ship until again I took the photo I was

2528
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:11,880
taking the photo of the pink part of the

2529
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:16,050
sky and when I downloaded it I saw this

2530
02:22:20,580 --> 02:22:19,200
so again this is taken right from my

2531
02:22:27,860 --> 02:22:20,590
backyard

2532
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:27,870
convinced yeah absolutely absolutely

2533
02:22:36,510 --> 02:22:33,280
okay so images number eleven this is one

2534
02:22:41,210 --> 02:22:36,520
that I got from Tom dango and you'll see

2535
02:22:46,170 --> 02:22:41,220
that there it is really hard to see but

2536
02:22:49,020 --> 02:22:46,180
there's a v-shaped craft that is

2537
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:49,030
blocking out the red rocks at the bottom

2538
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:52,210
yes yeah I see that yeah a vertical

2539
02:22:58,110 --> 02:22:54,880
climb yeah it is ABS I mean you would

2540
02:23:02,099 --> 02:22:58,120
think that there was some sort of space

2541
02:23:05,580 --> 02:23:02,109
between you know one rock and the other

2542
02:23:11,420 --> 02:23:05,590
but now that is something that is laying

2543
02:23:16,170 --> 02:23:11,430
on top of that rock a very high shaped

2544
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:16,180
UFO and one of the things that I noticed

2545
02:23:26,219 --> 02:23:18,850
about the Native Americans around here

2546
02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:26,229
is that they just use the term flying

2547
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:30,640
discs but it is it's hardly ever a disc

2548
02:23:41,780 --> 02:23:36,370
it could be a cigar shaped or this pie

2549
02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:41,790
shaped or a delta shaped or square or

2550
02:23:50,820 --> 02:23:46,510
lately I've been hearing about cubes

2551
02:23:53,400 --> 02:23:50,830
with spheres in the middle yeah they

2552
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:53,410
still all call them flying discs Oh

2553
02:24:00,360 --> 02:23:54,640
interesting

2554
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:00,370
so yeah it's sort of like Kleenex for

2555
02:24:10,580 --> 02:24:06,160
tissue so anyway this is a picture of

2556
02:24:15,300 --> 02:24:10,590
one of the missus said to me by client

2557
02:24:18,330 --> 02:24:15,310
let's learn and this is me taking a

2558
02:24:23,010 --> 02:24:18,340
picture of cam taking a picture because

2559
02:24:26,070 --> 02:24:23,020
she said oh my god there's an explosion

2560
02:24:30,170 --> 02:24:26,080
behind me there's some sort of explosion

2561
02:24:33,491 --> 02:24:30,180
that happened behind me and I said okay

2562
02:24:35,470 --> 02:24:33,501
so she went to go take a photo and

2563
02:24:39,131 --> 02:24:35,480
I took a photo of her taking the photo

2564
02:24:41,591 --> 02:24:39,141
of this explosion that she is a Cleese

2565
02:24:44,951 --> 02:24:41,601
helped she said that it felt like

2566
02:24:47,621 --> 02:24:44,961
something that we had been reverberating

2567
02:24:49,421 --> 02:24:47,631
through her body and this was taken

2568
02:24:52,501 --> 02:24:49,431
right at the front gate

2569
02:24:55,331 --> 02:24:52,511
Bradshaw wrench yeah yeah there's stuff

2570
02:24:57,671 --> 02:24:55,341
makes that in a regular photo I mean it

2571
02:25:01,361 --> 02:24:57,681
looks like there's flash going on it

2572
02:25:04,421 --> 02:25:01,371
doesn't look like the that the the

2573
02:25:07,691 --> 02:25:04,431
shutter rate is being too you know too

2574
02:25:11,671 --> 02:25:07,701
long exposed I mean what what other

2575
02:25:14,140 --> 02:25:11,681
thing makes these anomalies these uh

2576
02:25:16,511 --> 02:25:14,150
how else can you explain it that's what

2577
02:25:19,810 --> 02:25:16,521
I'm getting anything what is that yeah

2578
02:25:23,191 --> 02:25:19,820
you know and I had a guy he came even

2579
02:25:25,781 --> 02:25:23,201
out there one time with me as a skeptic

2580
02:25:28,301 --> 02:25:25,791
Bradshaw branch and he kept on picking

2581
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:28,311
up pieces of dirt and throwing them up

2582
02:25:34,991 --> 02:25:31,730
and you know taking a photo of it and I

2583
02:25:37,961 --> 02:25:35,001
said yeah you know you'll get you'll

2584
02:25:41,381 --> 02:25:37,971
probably get orbs or pictures of dirt

2585
02:25:43,901 --> 02:25:41,391
that way but look at these I mean some

2586
02:25:46,241 --> 02:25:43,911
of them have faces some of them are

2587
02:25:51,761 --> 02:25:46,251
different shape some of they're all

2588
02:25:53,770 --> 02:25:51,771
different colors and my Ken said I did

2589
02:25:56,651 --> 02:25:53,780
not witness this feeling of something

2590
02:26:00,161 --> 02:25:56,661
that reverberating through her but she

2591
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:00,171
felt like she said that her whole body

2592
02:26:06,491 --> 02:26:04,610
was just shaking it was like somebody

2593
02:26:10,270 --> 02:26:06,501
picked her up and just shook her like a

2594
02:26:14,890 --> 02:26:10,280
rag doll and so she turn around took a

2595
02:26:18,100 --> 02:26:14,900
photo anyway again another weird thing

2596
02:26:24,520 --> 02:26:18,110
that happened at Bradshaw ranch so we're

2597
02:26:29,261 --> 02:26:24,530
looking at 13 now yes this is one that I

2598
02:26:30,551 --> 02:26:29,271
got from Tom dango it's I don't know

2599
02:26:32,111 --> 02:26:30,561
what it is

2600
02:26:35,801 --> 02:26:32,121
like the birds that he was taking that

2601
02:26:40,151 --> 02:26:35,811
branch I ranch and they had been out

2602
02:26:43,211 --> 02:26:40,161
there the night before and he you know

2603
02:26:45,530 --> 02:26:43,221
and I called them up and I said up Tom

2604
02:26:51,470 --> 02:26:45,540
you'll never guess yeah there oh you're

2605
02:26:57,140 --> 02:26:51,480
there and you know a client had some

2606
02:27:00,650 --> 02:26:57,150
weird missing time oh I know this is the

2607
02:27:02,961 --> 02:27:00,660
time that cam and I had taken the

2608
02:27:06,171 --> 02:27:02,971
clients out there we did night vision

2609
02:27:08,810 --> 02:27:06,181
tour we watched the UFOs we took a lot

2610
02:27:11,871 --> 02:27:08,820
of photos of weirdness that happened at

2611
02:27:17,570 --> 02:27:11,881
Bradshaw ranch but right when we were

2612
02:27:24,051 --> 02:27:17,580
going to go cam got sight a big girl who

2613
02:27:27,070 --> 02:27:24,061
is the the Sasquatch that you know the

2614
02:27:32,331 --> 02:27:27,080
Bigfoot that lives out there whoa and

2615
02:27:34,820 --> 02:27:32,341
and so you know so ken was hesitant to

2616
02:27:38,180 --> 02:27:34,830
go she's got you know some really love

2617
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:38,190
for this big cuddly thing and I you know

2618
02:27:43,461 --> 02:27:40,080
it's like the rest of us wanted to go

2619
02:27:45,621 --> 02:27:43,471
and get our margarita get our Mexican

2620
02:27:50,421 --> 02:27:45,631
food before all those places close for

2621
02:27:54,470 --> 02:27:50,431
dinner and so we get in the car and

2622
02:28:00,801 --> 02:27:54,480
we're driving and we're driving and

2623
02:28:06,470 --> 02:28:00,811
we're driving and we're driving to get

2624
02:28:10,310 --> 02:28:06,480
some so we sit down from West Sedona out

2625
02:28:16,940 --> 02:28:10,320
to Bradshaw ranch is about 20 minutes

2626
02:28:23,631 --> 02:28:20,121
finally you know and Kevin I were trying

2627
02:28:25,881 --> 02:28:23,641
to you know we're trying to be really

2628
02:28:30,041 --> 02:28:25,891
it's really cool you know we're not

2629
02:28:33,530 --> 02:28:30,051
gonna I'm not going to scare the clients

2630
02:28:37,310 --> 02:28:33,540
you know something really paranormal is

2631
02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:37,320
happening right now and they're you know

2632
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:39,330
said we're chatting in the front and

2633
02:28:45,140 --> 02:28:41,250
what are you they were talking about how

2634
02:28:49,371 --> 02:28:45,150
great the day was and I'm collecting

2635
02:28:51,411 --> 02:28:49,381
money which is always fun and finally

2636
02:28:55,161 --> 02:28:51,421
this the woman in the backseat leaned

2637
02:28:58,840 --> 02:28:55,171
forward her name's Gloria and she

2638
02:29:01,899 --> 02:28:58,850
grabbed my arm and she said okay

2639
02:29:08,319 --> 02:29:01,909
I've seen that tree three times already

2640
02:29:13,199 --> 02:29:08,329
now why not and so Kim land on the break

2641
02:29:18,639 --> 02:29:13,209
she pulled over her a shiny red Jeep and

2642
02:29:22,569 --> 02:29:18,649
she gets out and she said big girl we

2643
02:29:24,219 --> 02:29:22,579
gotta go bigger and you know what do you

2644
02:29:30,729 --> 02:29:24,229
want what's going on

2645
02:29:36,479 --> 02:29:30,739
and I swear to God all four of us fell

2646
02:29:42,369 --> 02:29:36,489
to sleep once we just fell asleep

2647
02:29:46,090 --> 02:29:42,379
and it was like maybe five minutes but

2648
02:29:49,929 --> 02:29:46,100
then we all woke up we got into the car

2649
02:30:02,699 --> 02:29:49,939
we buckled our sleep seatbelt and we

2650
02:30:06,939 --> 02:30:02,709
drove silently to the restaurant so

2651
02:30:08,649 --> 02:30:06,949
seeing this this photo and I'm seeing

2652
02:30:10,599 --> 02:30:08,659
the Big Dipper in this photo and I'm

2653
02:30:12,550 --> 02:30:10,609
seeing like this almost look I mean

2654
02:30:15,309 --> 02:30:12,560
that's what a portal would look like I

2655
02:30:19,149 --> 02:30:15,319
mean if I were to depict it and there's

2656
02:30:22,899 --> 02:30:19,159
this beam going through is is this

2657
02:30:25,809 --> 02:30:22,909
possibly the entity or whatever that was

2658
02:30:29,559 --> 02:30:25,819
communicating with you guys yeah I could

2659
02:30:32,409 --> 02:30:29,569
know so no no I mean I we have this

2660
02:30:34,750 --> 02:30:32,419
experience I called up Tom and Tom said

2661
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:34,760
oh well wait till you see the photo that

2662
02:30:40,630 --> 02:30:36,560
my client took when we were out there

2663
02:30:42,579 --> 02:30:40,640
last night and I said oh okay

2664
02:30:45,489 --> 02:30:42,589
send it to me and this is what he sent

2665
02:30:52,359 --> 02:30:49,300
something ok so again a number 14 this

2666
02:30:56,099 --> 02:30:52,369
is another blow-up of that same one that

2667
02:31:00,279 --> 02:30:56,109
I'd sent you before so I'm just going to

2668
02:31:03,340 --> 02:31:00,289
go pass number 14 this is it's the same

2669
02:31:07,059 --> 02:31:03,350
UFO that I saw before I was trying to

2670
02:31:10,329 --> 02:31:07,069
get where you can kind of see that it

2671
02:31:11,390 --> 02:31:10,339
was a George Adamski kind of photo yeah

2672
02:31:14,301 --> 02:31:11,400
yeah

2673
02:31:16,460 --> 02:31:14,311
okay all right it looks like it's

2674
02:31:20,780 --> 02:31:16,470
changed shapes a bit it looks like it's

2675
02:31:23,690 --> 02:31:20,790
almost like a pistol looking [\h__\h] yeah

2676
02:31:26,900 --> 02:31:23,700
you know that kind of morph as you look

2677
02:31:30,261 --> 02:31:26,910
at them you see one thing and then they

2678
02:31:32,511 --> 02:31:30,271
kind of morph into another totally yes

2679
02:31:35,690 --> 02:31:32,521
like oh no that's not what we look like

2680
02:31:38,091 --> 02:31:35,700
really and so you get all these

2681
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:38,101
different witnesses and they're all

2682
02:31:42,380 --> 02:31:40,110
seeing something different and then the

2683
02:31:46,011 --> 02:31:42,390
researchers say oh yeah you're all nuts

2684
02:31:46,761 --> 02:31:46,021
you then see any thanks that's a bleep

2685
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:46,771
lie

2686
02:31:58,390 --> 02:31:50,130
all right Sedona Jocelyn image is number

2687
02:32:02,030 --> 02:31:58,400
15 this is a photo of tom dongho and he

2688
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:02,040
was business about same second night

2689
02:32:09,740 --> 02:32:06,240
after Kim and I had the weird experience

2690
02:32:14,150 --> 02:32:09,750
and this is one of the photos that his

2691
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:14,160
client along with that other one gave

2692
02:32:19,880 --> 02:32:16,650
that she took a photo of Tom that was

2693
02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:19,890
just looking up at the moon yeah they

2694
02:32:27,830 --> 02:32:24,890
look like a mental image that yeah and

2695
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:27,840
images number 16 this is another one of

2696
02:32:35,900 --> 02:32:32,250
Tom dumbbells of him one time when he

2697
02:32:39,860 --> 02:32:35,910
was out at Bradshaw ranch this is what

2698
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:39,870
they caught that's crazy because you

2699
02:32:44,990 --> 02:32:42,240
can't even explain like what it is yeah

2700
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:45,000
or would it moves that fast within that

2701
02:32:50,330 --> 02:32:46,530
shutter speed I mean when you're

2702
02:32:54,710 --> 02:32:50,340
capturing photos with a long exposure at

2703
02:32:57,530 --> 02:32:54,720
ten light tends to create a design but I

2704
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:57,540
mean if you look back at 15 the man and

2705
02:33:02,900 --> 02:32:59,760
the photo is standing still he would

2706
02:33:05,091 --> 02:33:02,910
have to stay so so still for a long time

2707
02:33:07,730 --> 02:33:05,101
for a really long time to get that long

2708
02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:07,740
explode exposure effect

2709
02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:10,290
I'm backtracking just a 15 for a second

2710
02:33:19,341 --> 02:33:14,370
yeah yeah if that was just a flash photo

2711
02:33:21,770 --> 02:33:19,351
snapped that thing's gotta be doing air

2712
02:33:22,341 --> 02:33:21,780
so what you do at Bradshaw ranch when

2713
02:33:27,291 --> 02:33:22,351
you're out

2714
02:33:29,810 --> 02:33:27,301
you take random photos often and she

2715
02:33:32,660 --> 02:33:29,820
just decided to take a random photo of

2716
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:32,670
Tom looking up at the moon and that's

2717
02:33:37,791 --> 02:33:34,410
what she got wow that's that's

2718
02:33:40,341 --> 02:33:37,801
phenomenal so 16 is it looks like it's

2719
02:33:43,190 --> 02:33:40,351
so moving on to 16 it looks it's it

2720
02:33:46,041 --> 02:33:43,200
there's no person in the photo there

2721
02:33:48,381 --> 02:33:46,051
seems to be some kind of lettering at

2722
02:33:53,690 --> 02:33:48,391
the bottom like respect or something or

2723
02:33:56,211 --> 02:33:53,700
I don't know that he put he puts that on

2724
02:34:02,171 --> 02:33:56,221
so that you know that that belongs to

2725
02:34:10,030 --> 02:34:02,181
him okay so yeah kind of like don't

2726
02:34:14,751 --> 02:34:10,040
respect my response to Tandang go and

2727
02:34:17,841 --> 02:34:14,761
this is a photo you can see the ridge

2728
02:34:20,570 --> 02:34:17,851
line kind of underneath but if this

2729
02:34:25,791 --> 02:34:20,580
whatever it is is pretty close to him

2730
02:34:31,310 --> 02:34:25,801
and he's standing on the front porch of

2731
02:34:35,541 --> 02:34:31,320
Bradshaw ranch looking out towards

2732
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:35,551
Sedona and this is pretty god Wow that's

2733
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:38,250
cool well whatever is there is obviously

2734
02:34:43,751 --> 02:34:41,730
aware of your presence and you know so

2735
02:34:46,041 --> 02:34:43,761
many people can say oh that's a bug I

2736
02:34:48,051 --> 02:34:46,051
have a hard time believing that when

2737
02:34:50,030 --> 02:34:48,061
there is there's a human and there's

2738
02:34:52,671 --> 02:34:50,040
light reflecting off of him I mean I'm

2739
02:34:54,591 --> 02:34:52,681
not an expert in camera and you know

2740
02:34:56,570 --> 02:34:54,601
camera lenses and light and all that

2741
02:34:58,461 --> 02:34:56,580
stuff right but I look at this stuff and

2742
02:34:59,870 --> 02:34:58,471
it's it's really just I can't explain it

2743
02:35:02,301 --> 02:34:59,880
so that's that's where I want to leave

2744
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:02,311
it it's just you can't explain that and

2745
02:35:08,450 --> 02:35:04,530
and I'm not looking at it as a deep

2746
02:35:10,341 --> 02:35:08,460
bunker at all like I totally I mean if

2747
02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:10,351
personally this is something that we

2748
02:35:16,011 --> 02:35:13,170
just can't explain and that's fine you

2749
02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:16,021
know that's kind of my my standpoint in

2750
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:18,240
I mean look at this little orb just just

2751
02:35:23,541 --> 02:35:21,210
kind of moving through space and it's

2752
02:35:26,660 --> 02:35:23,551
got to be moving so fast for it to

2753
02:35:29,211 --> 02:35:26,670
create this this trajectory right I mean

2754
02:35:33,261 --> 02:35:29,221
is is that is that way offers that kind

2755
02:35:35,751 --> 02:35:33,271
of kind of correct as is as far as like

2756
02:35:38,900 --> 02:35:35,761
the the object has to be movie

2757
02:35:45,350 --> 02:35:38,910
super super fast within the time that

2758
02:35:50,451 --> 02:35:45,360
the Yale one frame yeah one frame hey

2759
02:35:52,761 --> 02:35:50,461
joseline used to enjoying listening to

2760
02:35:56,121 --> 02:35:52,771
you guys did you see anything weird when

2761
02:35:56,990 --> 02:35:56,131
you were here oh you know yeah joke take

2762
02:35:59,690 --> 02:35:57,000
it off dude

2763
02:36:03,440 --> 02:35:59,700
yeah we did so we we went out to

2764
02:36:06,770 --> 02:36:03,450
Cathedral Rock you know we were standing

2765
02:36:08,511 --> 02:36:06,780
outside of our hotel and you know me and

2766
02:36:10,850 --> 02:36:08,521
Ben we were just kind of going over some

2767
02:36:13,131 --> 02:36:10,860
stuff you know for for a podcast that we

2768
02:36:15,621 --> 02:36:13,141
were gonna do and and you know we can I

2769
02:36:18,201 --> 02:36:15,631
had this weird feeling that dude we

2770
02:36:19,610 --> 02:36:18,211
should go out and just look well for a

2771
02:36:24,140 --> 02:36:19,620
while we looked at we went on our

2772
02:36:26,331 --> 02:36:24,150
balcony of our little hotel room and Joe

2773
02:36:28,761 --> 02:36:26,341
was like man they score the stars are

2774
02:36:30,051 --> 02:36:28,771
really twinkling at us and I said dude

2775
02:36:33,831 --> 02:36:30,061
you're totally right I've never seen

2776
02:36:35,331 --> 02:36:33,841
like all of the stars were twinkling at

2777
02:36:39,081 --> 02:36:35,341
us it was like they were speaking to us

2778
02:36:42,560 --> 02:36:39,091
come hang out with us and me but when

2779
02:36:44,631 --> 02:36:42,570
kalenna yeah and it was so weird I've

2780
02:36:46,730 --> 02:36:44,641
never experienced that and I looked at

2781
02:36:48,470 --> 02:36:46,740
Joe Joe was like we need to go out and I

2782
02:36:50,810 --> 02:36:48,480
was like dude you're totally right let's

2783
02:36:52,761 --> 02:36:50,820
get out of here let's go and we went out

2784
02:36:54,770 --> 02:36:52,771
to cathedral rock around what like 9

2785
02:36:57,411 --> 02:36:54,780
o'clock yeah it was about 9 o'clock at

2786
02:36:59,331 --> 02:36:57,421
night yeah we went out there and you

2787
02:37:02,421 --> 02:36:59,341
know we kind of stood there and we

2788
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:02,431
looked up at the sky and you know we

2789
02:37:06,051 --> 02:37:04,110
were chit-chatting back and forth and

2790
02:37:09,911 --> 02:37:06,061
you know it's probably you know maybe

2791
02:37:12,110 --> 02:37:09,921
about an hour or so and and you know we

2792
02:37:13,970 --> 02:37:12,120
you know we were getting ready to kind

2793
02:37:15,860 --> 02:37:13,980
of pack up and leave you know we just

2794
02:37:17,930 --> 02:37:15,870
enjoyed the experience of being able to

2795
02:37:20,451 --> 02:37:17,940
go out to a place like that and just

2796
02:37:22,581 --> 02:37:20,461
look at the sky you know be able to like

2797
02:37:24,350 --> 02:37:22,591
kind of you know see the Milky Way and

2798
02:37:26,301 --> 02:37:24,360
you know we were hoping maybe you know

2799
02:37:28,820 --> 02:37:26,311
we would see something and you know at

2800
02:37:32,211 --> 02:37:28,830
first we didn't and and it was almost

2801
02:37:34,881 --> 02:37:32,221
like as soon as we let our guard down -

2802
02:37:38,751 --> 02:37:34,891
yeah - kind of pack up and leave right

2803
02:37:42,110 --> 02:37:38,761
all of a sudden we saw we saw a light

2804
02:37:43,820 --> 02:37:42,120
and it was real faint at first but it

2805
02:37:45,591 --> 02:37:43,830
was moving and we kind of looked at each

2806
02:37:48,501 --> 02:37:45,601
other and were like oh hey take a look

2807
02:37:49,520 --> 02:37:48,511
at that and and all of a sudden this

2808
02:37:53,330 --> 02:37:49,530
light it

2809
02:37:56,210 --> 02:37:53,340
got super-bright it got super bright in

2810
02:37:58,580 --> 02:37:56,220
the sky and then it kind of shut off and

2811
02:38:00,850 --> 02:37:58,590
then it came back and got super bright

2812
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:00,860
again and it started moving you know

2813
02:38:06,560 --> 02:38:03,930
horizontal like tours like basically

2814
02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:06,570
behind Cathedral Rock is the direction

2815
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:08,130
that it started moving towards which

2816
02:38:12,620 --> 02:38:10,650
I'll add is we saw a lot of air traffic

2817
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:12,630
that night and all the air traffic was

2818
02:38:19,250 --> 02:38:14,850
following a certain trajectory yes there

2819
02:38:22,820 --> 02:38:19,260
was like kind of a 90 degree angle cross

2820
02:38:25,340 --> 02:38:22,830
traffic and all of the incoming traffic

2821
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:25,350
to Sedona or the Phoenix area were

2822
02:38:29,330 --> 02:38:27,210
coming from a specific direction this

2823
02:38:32,170 --> 02:38:29,340
light came from a totally different

2824
02:38:34,340 --> 02:38:32,180
direction and moved in a total

2825
02:38:37,760 --> 02:38:34,350
perpendicular direction it was in the

2826
02:38:40,700 --> 02:38:37,770
same angle but it was way off than any

2827
02:38:42,560 --> 02:38:40,710
other of the aircraft direction that we

2828
02:38:44,210 --> 02:38:42,570
had witnessed right and that's all a lot

2829
02:38:46,280 --> 02:38:44,220
of planes then yeah we did it but you

2830
02:38:48,410 --> 02:38:46,290
could hear them as well it is this thing

2831
02:38:50,750 --> 02:38:48,420
we couldn't hear it and not to mention

2832
02:38:54,170 --> 02:38:50,760
the the like that we saw came out of

2833
02:38:56,380 --> 02:38:54,180
nowhere no it just showed up yeah it was

2834
02:39:00,260 --> 02:38:56,390
kind of like hey look at me yeah

2835
02:39:02,390 --> 02:39:00,270
pulsated and and so this first light it

2836
02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:02,400
went and it actually went behind

2837
02:39:08,420 --> 02:39:05,490
cathedral rock and me and Ben were it's

2838
02:39:11,150 --> 02:39:08,430
just super excited about this I mean you

2839
02:39:13,730 --> 02:39:11,160
know it was something awesome to see in

2840
02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:13,740
that area and you know we're you know

2841
02:39:19,550 --> 02:39:15,570
we're high five in and like yeah that

2842
02:39:22,130 --> 02:39:19,560
was awesome you know and and as soon as

2843
02:39:25,310 --> 02:39:22,140
we started getting ready to leave again

2844
02:39:28,130 --> 02:39:25,320
all of a sudden another one showed up

2845
02:39:30,170 --> 02:39:28,140
out of nowhere and it got a different

2846
02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:30,180
color it was a white light yeah it was a

2847
02:39:35,960 --> 02:39:32,550
different color it was it was a brighter

2848
02:39:38,300 --> 02:39:35,970
whiter light and this thing lit up even

2849
02:39:41,930 --> 02:39:38,310
more than the first one that we saw yeah

2850
02:39:44,900 --> 02:39:41,940
and so it did two quick real bright

2851
02:39:47,900 --> 02:39:44,910
bursts and then it's moved up and it

2852
02:39:50,450 --> 02:39:47,910
disappeared right and you know I I often

2853
02:39:52,190 --> 02:39:50,460
think about this in my memory and there

2854
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:52,200
was not any clouds that direction

2855
02:39:56,570 --> 02:39:53,760
remember there was a a big thunderstorm

2856
02:39:58,880 --> 02:39:56,580
right so how do we have had there been

2857
02:40:00,890 --> 02:39:58,890
clouds we would have seen refraction or

2858
02:40:02,720 --> 02:40:00,900
reflection of the light on top of the

2859
02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:02,730
clouds that thing was so far up there

2860
02:40:06,349 --> 02:40:02,970
was

2861
02:40:08,840 --> 02:40:06,359
any clouds to say how you know the

2862
02:40:10,939 --> 02:40:08,850
altitude of that that last one the last

2863
02:40:12,949 --> 02:40:10,949
one was the most convincing the first

2864
02:40:15,469 --> 02:40:12,959
one that we have previously talked about

2865
02:40:16,969 --> 02:40:15,479
was like an orange light that I don't

2866
02:40:19,639 --> 02:40:16,979
know what that could have been but this

2867
02:40:21,859 --> 02:40:19,649
one the last one we saw was this white

2868
02:40:23,989 --> 02:40:21,869
light that pulsed a couple of times and

2869
02:40:27,439 --> 02:40:23,999
it was literally as me and Joe we're

2870
02:40:30,830 --> 02:40:27,449
kind of communicating of non-verbally

2871
02:40:32,809 --> 02:40:30,840
like hey do you see that yeah absolutely

2872
02:40:35,750 --> 02:40:32,819
looking at each other we look back up

2873
02:40:37,599 --> 02:40:35,760
and it just gave us a little taste it

2874
02:40:40,189 --> 02:40:37,609
was like hey we're here what's up dudes

2875
02:40:42,529 --> 02:40:40,199
let me show you what I can do and then

2876
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:42,539
it was gone and never showed up in a

2877
02:40:47,269 --> 02:40:45,840
different part of the sky you know yeah

2878
02:40:50,239 --> 02:40:47,279
and this was all throughout the course

2879
02:40:52,069 --> 02:40:50,249
of maybe a minute yeah a minute

2880
02:40:53,569 --> 02:40:52,079
you know we saw both of them and you

2881
02:40:55,910 --> 02:40:53,579
know me and Ben you know we were kind of

2882
02:40:58,729 --> 02:40:55,920
talking about first but then towards the

2883
02:41:00,500 --> 02:40:58,739
end of it you know really silent and you

2884
02:41:02,660 --> 02:41:00,510
know I remember thinking to myself good

2885
02:41:04,580 --> 02:41:02,670
vibes yeah yeah we were sitting out just

2886
02:41:06,500 --> 02:41:04,590
the positive energy and I remember

2887
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:06,510
thinking to myself you know like you

2888
02:41:10,910 --> 02:41:08,850
know like hey if you you know if you

2889
02:41:13,130 --> 02:41:10,920
guys are there you know like I would

2890
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:13,140
love to just see something like

2891
02:41:20,300 --> 02:41:17,010
something and almost immediately after I

2892
02:41:22,340 --> 02:41:20,310
had this thought in my mind boom it

2893
02:41:24,319 --> 02:41:22,350
showed up yeah and I also had this idea

2894
02:41:26,389 --> 02:41:24,329
like I wanted to let them know like hey

2895
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:26,399
we're not trying to capitalize on this

2896
02:41:30,500 --> 02:41:28,560
we're not recording this this is just

2897
02:41:33,109 --> 02:41:30,510
for us yeah absolutely like yeah we're

2898
02:41:34,790 --> 02:41:33,119
probably gonna tell a story for sure but

2899
02:41:36,859 --> 02:41:34,800
we're not gonna have video evidence this

2900
02:41:39,199 --> 02:41:36,869
is all gonna be this is between you and

2901
02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:39,209
me yeah we're human we're gonna talk

2902
02:41:42,760 --> 02:41:41,279
about it but it was another situations

2903
02:41:50,179 --> 02:41:42,770
incredible experience

2904
02:41:53,599 --> 02:41:50,189
yeah cool I love that story where were

2905
02:41:56,929 --> 02:41:53,609
you standing when you were seeing all of

2906
02:42:01,040 --> 02:41:56,939
this so where exactly where were you on

2907
02:42:03,769 --> 02:42:01,050
the planet so we were we were we were in

2908
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:03,779
Sedona and as you drive up to Cathedral

2909
02:42:09,319 --> 02:42:05,850
Rock there's the parking lot and if you

2910
02:42:11,479 --> 02:42:09,329
walk up from the parking lot up and you

2911
02:42:14,510 --> 02:42:11,489
start going up Cathedral Rock there's

2912
02:42:16,590 --> 02:42:14,520
this big flat area the plateau kind of

2913
02:42:18,359 --> 02:42:16,600
yeah right before you get to

2914
02:42:21,599 --> 02:42:18,369
the you know the part where you have to

2915
02:42:23,969 --> 02:42:21,609
really start to climb and it was just

2916
02:42:25,979 --> 02:42:23,979
that big flat area we were standing out

2917
02:42:26,639 --> 02:42:25,989
there and you know there was there was

2918
02:42:29,189 --> 02:42:26,649
nobody there

2919
02:42:32,099 --> 02:42:29,199
well there was people there were people

2920
02:42:33,899 --> 02:42:32,109
there up further on to the hog but they

2921
02:42:36,570 --> 02:42:33,909
ended up leaving yeah we could see there

2922
02:42:38,820 --> 02:42:36,580
are little lights yeah yeah and so then

2923
02:42:40,439 --> 02:42:38,830
when it was just me and Ben standing out

2924
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:40,449
there I mean we stood there and just

2925
02:42:44,729 --> 02:42:42,640
look straight up for about an hour two

2926
02:42:48,630 --> 02:42:44,739
hours do yes I think it was an hour and

2927
02:42:52,859 --> 02:42:48,640
a half into our show right to your right

2928
02:42:56,309 --> 02:42:52,869
you can write on c2 Cathedral Rock and

2929
02:42:58,649 --> 02:42:56,319
Bell Rock uh-huh yeah so we're looking

2930
02:43:03,059 --> 02:42:58,659
directly okay and so you're on that flat

2931
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:03,069
okay bad is the spot where every full

2932
02:43:10,820 --> 02:43:08,170
moon all of the Sedona natives crawl up

2933
02:43:14,880 --> 02:43:10,830
there and have a big drumming circle

2934
02:43:16,830 --> 02:43:14,890
yeah remember I told us about the drum

2935
02:43:21,960 --> 02:43:16,840
circles yeah yeah

2936
02:43:25,710 --> 02:43:21,970
yes you found the spot and the reason

2937
02:43:30,359 --> 02:43:25,720
that they drum it in is because that is

2938
02:43:32,490 --> 02:43:30,369
their version of ce-5 it's just a

2939
02:43:40,170 --> 02:43:32,500
different form of meditation you know

2940
02:43:48,269 --> 02:43:40,180
and okay so Peter Gersten is called the

2941
02:43:53,130 --> 02:43:48,279
UFO attorney 1980s he'll is out there

2942
02:43:58,370 --> 02:43:53,140
and he is obsessed with a bell rock

2943
02:44:04,950 --> 02:43:58,380
Peter Gersten says that Bell Rock is a

2944
02:44:10,050 --> 02:44:04,960
UFO it's just it was parked and then the

2945
02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:10,060
rain came and the sediment came and all

2946
02:44:18,420 --> 02:44:14,830
that sediment has is on top of the UFO

2947
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:18,430
and he says one day it's just been a

2948
02:44:23,700 --> 02:44:21,040
break right through that would be

2949
02:44:26,790 --> 02:44:23,710
incredible to see if it happens in our

2950
02:44:28,859 --> 02:44:26,800
lifetime yeah yeah so any kind that you

2951
02:44:32,129 --> 02:44:28,869
want to come to Sedona you can

2952
02:44:35,579 --> 02:44:32,139
probably call up Peter Gersten because

2953
02:44:40,889 --> 02:44:35,589
he takes people up to the top of Bell

2954
02:44:47,219 --> 02:44:40,899
Rock man yes I had and he's like an old

2955
02:44:50,699 --> 02:44:47,229
man now he's like 75 76 yeah so anyway

2956
02:44:53,399 --> 02:44:50,709
yeah that's in credit for them really

2957
02:44:59,219 --> 02:44:53,409
quickly I know this is like you know

2958
02:45:01,829 --> 02:44:59,229
we've already passed two hours okay the

2959
02:45:07,619 --> 02:45:01,839
next one this is this is the woman that

2960
02:45:10,619 --> 02:45:07,629
was taking the photos of Tom dongho in

2961
02:45:12,719 --> 02:45:10,629
that last photo of him looking up at the

2962
02:45:15,659 --> 02:45:12,729
moon and you can see that there's some

2963
02:45:18,260 --> 02:45:15,669
sort of energy that is coming down and

2964
02:45:23,789 --> 02:45:18,270
right into her foot right right yeah

2965
02:45:28,159 --> 02:45:23,799
yeah okay so that's what this is my

2966
02:45:32,719 --> 02:45:28,169
favorite photo of Tom down goes

2967
02:45:38,249 --> 02:45:32,729
collection of Boyton Canyon this photo

2968
02:45:42,419 --> 02:45:38,259
looks like they're serve Ayanna 1964

2969
02:45:49,729 --> 02:45:42,429
Buick background I don't know and it's

2970
02:45:54,869 --> 02:45:49,739
coming right over the Boykin Canyon

2971
02:45:57,359 --> 02:45:54,879
Cucina woman who do ya and and then

2972
02:46:00,359 --> 02:45:57,369
there's a woman that is standing down

2973
02:46:03,329 --> 02:46:00,369
there and her boyfriend's taking a photo

2974
02:46:05,639 --> 02:46:03,339
of this and he doesn't see anything he's

2975
02:46:09,479 --> 02:46:05,649
just taking a photo of his girlfriend

2976
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:09,489
standing in front of the Kachina a woman

2977
02:46:14,760 --> 02:46:13,359
who do before they get to Enchantment

2978
02:46:17,599 --> 02:46:14,770
where they're going to have to turn

2979
02:46:20,159 --> 02:46:17,609
around and drive out because you know

2980
02:46:28,639 --> 02:46:20,169
they don't have reservation is there

2981
02:46:32,729 --> 02:46:28,649
yeah the path that this crash that Knox

2982
02:46:35,609 --> 02:46:32,739
triangular I mean it doesn't look like

2983
02:46:37,859 --> 02:46:35,619
the back of a 64 theory it definitely

2984
02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:37,869
does yeah it's a great album cover and

2985
02:46:42,550 --> 02:46:40,250
looks like a giant 8-track just floating

2986
02:46:45,309 --> 02:46:42,560
this guy it looks it definitely looks

2987
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:45,319
like it it's amazing like a class that's

2988
02:46:55,269 --> 02:46:52,010
an incredible photo yeah Tom said that

2989
02:46:58,450 --> 02:46:55,279
he had given a talk in town you know

2990
02:47:02,590 --> 02:46:58,460
about Bradshaw branch and you know the

2991
02:47:08,130 --> 02:47:02,600
write directly the next Canyon over from

2992
02:47:13,229 --> 02:47:08,140
Laurie Canyon is Boynton Canyon and

2993
02:47:17,460 --> 02:47:13,239
enchantment is built in the mouth of

2994
02:47:20,830 --> 02:47:17,470
poitain Canyon and the Native Americans

2995
02:47:25,330 --> 02:47:20,840
say that this is where the Kachina woman

2996
02:47:31,559 --> 02:47:25,340
lives Wow and the Kachina woman this is

2997
02:47:34,090 --> 02:47:31,569
her vagina - every soul in the universe

2998
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:34,100
from this Canyon that's the coolest

2999
02:47:40,809 --> 02:47:37,520
vagina I've ever seen no girl okay so

3000
02:47:45,280 --> 02:47:40,819
anyway here's somebody that's backing up

3001
02:47:50,530 --> 02:47:45,290
to see mom obviously yeah you know it

3002
02:47:53,889 --> 02:47:50,540
but I think this is so incredible this

3003
02:47:57,700 --> 02:47:53,899
was taken and is a slide it's been

3004
02:48:02,190 --> 02:47:57,710
analyzed it is not a double exposure of

3005
02:48:08,530 --> 02:48:02,200
any kind it was taken in the early

3006
02:48:12,190 --> 02:48:08,540
seventies Wow man I'm speechless like

3007
02:48:13,960 --> 02:48:12,200
this photo is incredible I it's it's

3008
02:48:17,979 --> 02:48:13,970
really I don't have words for this

3009
02:48:19,960 --> 02:48:17,989
because it's it it just kind of depicts

3010
02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:19,970
a lot of things and what did what gear

3011
02:48:25,090 --> 02:48:20,720
did you say

3012
02:48:30,210 --> 02:48:25,100
Jocelin that this photo if I remember

3013
02:48:32,860 --> 02:48:30,220
correctly it was 1972 okay so in 1972 I

3014
02:48:36,130 --> 02:48:32,870
okay so my profession is graphic design

3015
02:48:39,070 --> 02:48:36,140
I know for a fact in 1972 there were no

3016
02:48:42,880 --> 02:48:39,080
computers to do graphic design there was

3017
02:48:43,599 --> 02:48:42,890
a lot of double exposure a lot of things

3018
02:48:45,250 --> 02:48:43,609
like that

3019
02:48:48,400 --> 02:48:45,260
and I don't know how to tell the

3020
02:48:51,580 --> 02:48:48,410
difference but this thing Tamiya and SM

3021
02:48:53,059 --> 02:48:51,590
and this is a slide you can't Photoshop

3022
02:48:54,859 --> 02:48:53,069
a slide

3023
02:48:57,649 --> 02:48:54,869
right and I'm looking I'm looking I'm

3024
02:49:00,559 --> 02:48:57,659
zooming in and normally around an object

3025
02:49:04,010 --> 02:49:00,569
that has been you know photo enhanced or

3026
02:49:05,659 --> 02:49:04,020
or swapped out in the old days you would

3027
02:49:08,809 --> 02:49:05,669
have to literally cut it out with an

3028
02:49:12,579 --> 02:49:08,819
exacto knife and place it on the next

3029
02:49:15,019 --> 02:49:12,589
slide right the the next negative and

3030
02:49:18,199 --> 02:49:15,029
reverse it and then take that photo

3031
02:49:21,469 --> 02:49:18,209
again there's no usually that creates

3032
02:49:23,689 --> 02:49:21,479
some inconsistencies within the pixels

3033
02:49:27,949 --> 02:49:23,699
and there's no inconsistencies between

3034
02:49:35,630 --> 02:49:27,959
the the skyline the the clouds it's just

3035
02:49:37,819 --> 02:49:35,640
a very fluid let's not forget 1972 they

3036
02:49:39,739 --> 02:49:37,829
didn't get these photos back for two

3037
02:49:43,279 --> 02:49:39,749
weeks after they returned home

3038
02:49:46,699 --> 02:49:43,289
Wow yeah I sent them out to be processed

3039
02:49:48,559 --> 02:49:46,709
they were all slides when it took them

3040
02:49:51,559 --> 02:49:48,569
you know a while to get one of those

3041
02:49:54,050 --> 02:49:51,569
carousel things and you know mark all

3042
02:49:55,880 --> 02:49:54,060
they put them in stickers then they

3043
02:49:58,279 --> 02:49:55,890
start looking at their vacation slides

3044
02:50:00,050 --> 02:49:58,289
all right it looks like this thing is

3045
02:50:01,699 --> 02:50:00,060
just kind of winking at you from the

3046
02:50:03,739 --> 02:50:01,709
behind I'm just I'm just kind of

3047
02:50:05,449 --> 02:50:03,749
noticing I don't know I can't get over

3048
02:50:08,540 --> 02:50:05,459
the fact that this thing is it looks

3049
02:50:10,819 --> 02:50:08,550
like a giant triangle with two vents at

3050
02:50:14,659 --> 02:50:10,829
the back and the two vents is what you

3051
02:50:16,699 --> 02:50:14,669
see is the spectator in this photo this

3052
02:50:18,590 --> 02:50:16,709
is just the most phenomenal photo out of

3053
02:50:21,199 --> 02:50:18,600
well there's one other one oh yeah but

3054
02:50:23,569 --> 02:50:21,209
this is this is the Sun I wanted to

3055
02:50:26,899 --> 02:50:23,579
point out to you do you think this looks

3056
02:50:43,099 --> 02:50:26,909
a little bit like the frog face in that

3057
02:50:46,969 --> 02:50:43,109
blue orb I see that blue orb that's you

3058
02:50:53,149 --> 02:50:46,979
know the face in the blue orb Wow okay

3059
02:50:59,040 --> 02:50:53,159
okay now I see why all right man I'm

3060
02:51:02,609 --> 02:50:59,050
speechless okay okay

3061
02:51:05,490 --> 02:51:02,619
photo a UFO I took over my house this is

3062
02:51:11,219 --> 02:51:05,500
nineteen images nineteen this looks like

3063
02:51:15,809 --> 02:51:11,229
the typical flying saucer this is yeah

3064
02:51:24,840 --> 02:51:15,819
okay so okay this is a photo that a

3065
02:51:28,439 --> 02:51:24,850
friend took and gave I gave it to I told

3066
02:51:34,170 --> 02:51:28,449
her to you know give it to Tom down girl

3067
02:51:43,500 --> 02:51:34,180
and so she did but this is taken over of

3068
02:51:46,260 --> 02:51:43,510
like the Uptown area of Sedona in 2006 I

3069
02:51:51,059 --> 02:51:46,270
love that all right so what it looks

3070
02:51:54,469 --> 02:51:51,069
like is a UFO with a lot of Windows yeah

3071
02:51:57,679 --> 02:51:54,479
oh right the next we're looking at

3072
02:52:00,450 --> 02:51:57,689
images number 20 this is the one that I

3073
02:52:02,429 --> 02:52:00,460
have so many questions for you Jocelyn

3074
02:52:07,740 --> 02:52:02,439
this is like the most amazing photo I've

3075
02:52:11,460 --> 02:52:07,750
ever seen okay friend of mine said yeah

3076
02:52:15,800 --> 02:52:11,470
this blue thing keeps going by my house

3077
02:52:25,920 --> 02:52:15,810
about every night about you know around

3078
02:52:31,019 --> 02:52:25,930
9:15 and 9:20 and she's got a a condo

3079
02:52:34,939 --> 02:52:31,029
unit two two stories and it's in Uptown

3080
02:52:42,029 --> 02:52:34,949
and she says yeah and it goes right down

3081
02:52:47,309 --> 02:52:42,039
into Barolo and the one of the reasons

3082
02:52:51,779 --> 02:52:47,319
that this is such a fun story for me one

3083
02:52:57,779 --> 02:52:51,789
day Kim Carlsberg and I are having lunch

3084
02:52:59,550 --> 02:52:57,789
at this cafe and uptown and it's you

3085
02:53:02,069 --> 02:52:59,560
know the second floor up and we're

3086
02:53:08,880 --> 02:53:02,079
looking directly down into bear wallow

3087
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:08,890
and so you know they're always looking

3088
02:53:17,699 --> 02:53:11,439
at the weird things going on

3089
02:53:20,279 --> 02:53:17,709
and Kim said do you see that solar thing

3090
02:53:23,159 --> 02:53:20,289
that just dropped down from the sky and

3091
02:53:26,760 --> 02:53:23,169
it's just sitting there and I go he have

3092
02:53:29,429 --> 02:53:26,770
what is that and it looked like this but

3093
02:53:32,159 --> 02:53:29,439
it was like you know pretty far away

3094
02:53:34,199 --> 02:53:32,169
like I'm you know like we're looking a

3095
02:53:38,729 --> 02:53:34,209
mile away so it's just looking like this

3096
02:53:42,569 --> 02:53:38,739
kind of blue silver thing and and it

3097
02:53:45,719 --> 02:53:42,579
just sits there and watch this shifts

3098
02:53:49,109 --> 02:53:45,729
there and so Kim calls the waitress over

3099
02:53:52,769 --> 02:53:49,119
it she goes do you see something weird

3100
02:53:54,959 --> 02:53:52,779
going on over there she goes alive what

3101
02:53:57,899 --> 02:53:54,969
he said what do you say weird she goes

3102
02:54:00,239 --> 02:53:57,909
well because it says do you do you see

3103
02:54:04,099 --> 02:54:00,249
that kind of blue silver thing I was

3104
02:54:05,429 --> 02:54:04,109
sitting right there and I'm spinning and

3105
02:54:08,039 --> 02:54:05,439
the girl

3106
02:54:11,279 --> 02:54:08,049
the waitress kind of looks out she goes

3107
02:54:12,719 --> 02:54:11,289
yeah I see it just like Kim says have

3108
02:54:18,569 --> 02:54:12,729
you ever seen their hand I had before

3109
02:54:25,859 --> 02:54:18,579
and the waitress said yeah no I don't

3110
02:54:29,010 --> 02:54:25,869
know and she went back and kid hey we're

3111
02:54:33,869 --> 02:54:29,020
looking around this entire restaurant

3112
02:54:35,939 --> 02:54:33,879
and the people on the streets walking

3113
02:54:45,689 --> 02:54:35,949
back and forth they're completely

3114
02:54:49,709 --> 02:54:45,699
oblivious of course across the canyon

3115
02:54:52,800 --> 02:54:49,719
and Bearwallow it look like this oh

3116
02:54:55,039 --> 02:54:52,810
that's incredible like just right there

3117
02:55:11,789 --> 02:54:55,049
at Uptown's you know somebody's you see

3118
02:55:15,899 --> 02:55:11,799
everybody like a spinning top yes yeah

3119
02:55:20,050 --> 02:55:15,909
yeah it's not your typical like saucer

3120
02:55:24,069 --> 02:55:20,060
shape or that it was getting real

3121
02:55:25,599 --> 02:55:24,079
loudly Wow so I'm just like for any

3122
02:55:27,340 --> 02:55:25,609
skeptic out there I've always got to

3123
02:55:30,639 --> 02:55:27,350
play devil's advocate

3124
02:55:33,010 --> 02:55:30,649
what human-made object has that many

3125
02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:33,020
windows in that circular so some people

3126
02:55:38,109 --> 02:55:35,840
might say okay I'm just I don't believe

3127
02:55:40,210 --> 02:55:38,119
this but this some people might say oh

3128
02:55:42,250 --> 02:55:40,220
that's just a very directed light on a

3129
02:55:45,130 --> 02:55:42,260
lighthouse okay well named e1 a

3130
02:55:48,069 --> 02:55:45,140
lighthouse that has okay we can see at

3131
02:55:50,319 --> 02:55:48,079
least five windows that doesn't exist

3132
02:55:54,370 --> 02:55:50,329
that's not how a lighthouse is made yeah

3133
02:55:56,319 --> 02:55:54,380
that is something in the sky to me when

3134
02:55:58,630 --> 02:55:56,329
I'm looking at it that that's that is

3135
02:56:00,969 --> 02:55:58,640
something in the sky that is not

3136
02:56:03,639 --> 02:56:00,979
man-made yeah absolutely or even like a

3137
02:56:06,160 --> 02:56:03,649
water tower lit from the bottom right

3138
02:56:08,200 --> 02:56:06,170
but even then like where are the legs on

3139
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:08,210
it and what kind of water tower do you

3140
02:56:12,309 --> 02:56:10,399
know that has windows yeah and what kind

3141
02:56:13,960 --> 02:56:12,319
of so the angle of the bottom you see

3142
02:56:16,990 --> 02:56:13,970
where it's kind of glowing the brightest

3143
02:56:19,300 --> 02:56:17,000
yeah so if that were a structure that

3144
02:56:20,109 --> 02:56:19,310
was grounded on the ground you would see

3145
02:56:22,269 --> 02:56:20,119
the legs

3146
02:56:25,359 --> 02:56:22,279
yeah the pillars are something lutely

3147
02:56:26,920 --> 02:56:25,369
but nothing yeah nothing I love that's

3148
02:56:28,960 --> 02:56:26,930
what my favorite photo

3149
02:56:31,240 --> 02:56:28,970
Jocelin when you sent that to me my jaw

3150
02:56:33,849 --> 02:56:31,250
dropped and I told Joe today and

3151
02:56:35,710 --> 02:56:33,859
arrowing yesterday or I guess was today

3152
02:56:39,670 --> 02:56:35,720
yeah I saw your email and I was like hey

3153
02:56:41,649 --> 02:56:39,680
bro I I'm not gonna seem you any photos

3154
02:56:45,880 --> 02:56:41,659
until you get here because joseline just

3155
02:56:47,500 --> 02:56:45,890
sent us some jaw droppers and we're I'm

3156
02:56:49,870 --> 02:56:47,510
so excited about this photo I think

3157
02:56:51,370 --> 02:56:49,880
anybody listening to this and I hope

3158
02:56:53,710 --> 02:56:51,380
we're describing it well and when you

3159
02:56:55,689 --> 02:56:53,720
get home from your drive home or your

3160
02:56:59,260 --> 02:56:55,699
drive to work get to work look at this

3161
02:57:01,840 --> 02:56:59,270
photo go on our website UFO garage PC

3162
02:57:04,359 --> 02:57:01,850
comm check check out this photo because

3163
02:57:08,380 --> 02:57:04,369
this is the best this is the best photo

3164
02:57:11,830 --> 02:57:08,390
I've seen of a UFO ever ever yes Jocelin

3165
02:57:13,420 --> 02:57:11,840
you did that this is this is credited to

3166
02:57:15,370 --> 02:57:13,430
you and your photographer that you got

3167
02:57:18,189 --> 02:57:15,380
this from yeah this is but this is one

3168
02:57:22,960 --> 02:57:18,199
that doesn't belongs to Tom dango I hope

3169
02:57:25,599 --> 02:57:22,970
I can publish it yeah yeah yeah so we

3170
02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:25,609
got to give permission where you no

3171
02:57:29,800 --> 02:57:27,680
credit where credit's due but I mean

3172
02:57:32,380 --> 02:57:29,810
yeah yeah I go or from the person that

3173
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:32,390
took it sure definitely that I would

3174
02:57:36,769 --> 02:57:33,210
love

3175
02:57:42,500 --> 02:57:36,779
- now the thing about it is if you took

3176
02:57:45,979 --> 02:57:42,510
this UFO and you made a building and you

3177
02:57:48,200 --> 02:57:45,989
put the building into the side of the

3178
02:57:55,340 --> 02:57:48,210
canyon right there it would look exactly

3179
02:57:59,210 --> 02:57:55,350
like the Lucille Ball's house go on

3180
02:58:02,179 --> 02:57:59,220
Google and try to find the image I'll

3181
02:58:05,929 --> 02:58:02,189
I'll try to maybe I'll go up town I'll

3182
02:58:09,400 --> 02:58:05,939
just snap a photo of it but the field

3183
02:58:13,610 --> 02:58:09,410
ball has a house that she built the

3184
02:58:24,979 --> 02:58:13,620
semicircular right in built-in bare wall

3185
02:58:28,130 --> 02:58:24,989
oh yeah that's a gorgeous house Wow

3186
02:58:30,410 --> 02:58:28,140
yeah it is really something all right

3187
02:58:33,849 --> 02:58:30,420
let's kill the killer move on three guys

3188
02:58:38,599 --> 02:58:33,859
and talk about them anymore

3189
02:58:45,370 --> 02:58:38,609
21 is one of those photos from tom

3190
02:58:49,429 --> 02:58:45,380
dongho of the shoot random photos and

3191
02:58:52,040 --> 02:58:49,439
was just taken from a slide and this is

3192
02:58:58,460 --> 02:58:52,050
a photo that he took as he's just kind

3193
02:59:01,250 --> 02:58:58,470
of walking around the grounds a Bradshaw

3194
02:59:03,860 --> 02:59:01,260
ranch and he's randomly taking photos

3195
02:59:05,780 --> 02:59:03,870
and he gets the picture of the sky so

3196
02:59:09,080 --> 02:59:05,790
we're looking at this guy's like a tall

3197
02:59:11,780 --> 02:59:09,090
and easy yeah go ahead

3198
02:59:12,740 --> 02:59:11,790
it's a you describe him what does he

3199
02:59:14,389 --> 02:59:12,750
look like to you

3200
02:59:19,490 --> 02:59:14,399
he looks like Michael Jackson doing the

3201
02:59:22,490 --> 02:59:19,500
moonwalk and a white and a white white

3202
02:59:25,910 --> 02:59:22,500
jumpsuit and he has glowing eyes but

3203
02:59:27,830 --> 02:59:25,920
honestly I don't know I don't know what

3204
02:59:31,939 --> 02:59:27,840
I'm looking at jocelyn what can you give

3205
02:59:37,309 --> 02:59:31,949
us some background on that okay so this

3206
02:59:42,620 --> 02:59:37,319
was taken and and I'm going to say 1985

3207
02:59:45,650 --> 02:59:42,630
or so Brett a there were some things

3208
02:59:49,520 --> 02:59:45,660
happening out at Bradshaw ranch and

3209
02:59:54,740 --> 02:59:49,530
Linda Bradshaw was really into the

3210
02:59:58,280 --> 02:59:54,750
fringe but Bob Bradshaw he you know he

3211
03:00:01,250 --> 02:59:58,290
could give a damn you know he you had to

3212
03:00:03,310 --> 03:00:01,260
like really hit him over the head and he

3213
03:00:05,840 --> 03:00:03,320
did get some head him over the head

3214
03:00:11,060 --> 03:00:05,850
moments but he never wanted to talk

3215
03:00:14,350 --> 03:00:11,070
about it Bob Linda would call up Tom

3216
03:00:18,050 --> 03:00:14,360
dongho Tom was her friend and Tom was

3217
03:00:20,540 --> 03:00:18,060
really into the stuff Tom wrote seven

3218
03:00:24,880 --> 03:00:20,550
books about Bradshaw ranch and that's

3219
03:00:31,219 --> 03:00:24,890
what made Bradshaw ranch really you know

3220
03:00:33,889 --> 03:00:31,229
out there in the public otherwise people

3221
03:00:39,880 --> 03:00:33,899
wouldn't know about Bradshaw ranch to

3222
03:00:43,370 --> 03:00:39,890
you know yeah yeah it was next door but

3223
03:00:49,850 --> 03:00:43,380
Linda would call him up and he she would

3224
03:00:53,300 --> 03:00:49,860
say hey Bob I mean I hate Tom Bob's

3225
03:00:56,690 --> 03:00:53,310
asleep but there seems to be something

3226
03:00:59,480 --> 03:00:56,700
happening out there in the pasture I

3227
03:01:04,190 --> 03:00:59,490
don't know why I should come over and

3228
03:01:07,630 --> 03:01:04,200
bring your camera and so Tom donger

3229
03:01:10,850 --> 03:01:07,640
would come over and he would interview

3230
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:10,860
Linda get her to describe everything

3231
03:01:16,280 --> 03:01:14,010
that had happened and they got

3232
03:01:19,300 --> 03:01:16,290
everything documented and then they

3233
03:01:22,460 --> 03:01:19,310
would go out and they would either

3234
03:01:25,219 --> 03:01:22,470
videotape it or they would take photos

3235
03:01:30,170 --> 03:01:25,229
and most the time it was just they would

3236
03:01:35,179 --> 03:01:30,180
take photos and this was before digital

3237
03:01:40,730 --> 03:01:35,189
cameras and all of that and so they

3238
03:01:49,160 --> 03:01:40,740
would take photos with their Canon

3239
03:01:53,750 --> 03:01:49,170
cameras and slide film and they wouldn't

3240
03:01:57,800 --> 03:01:53,760
know what they took until the Walgreens

3241
03:02:00,370 --> 03:01:57,810
the next day and got their photos and

3242
03:02:06,380 --> 03:02:00,380
their 24 hours sir

3243
03:02:08,719 --> 03:02:06,390
this is one of the photos that Linda

3244
03:02:11,449 --> 03:02:08,729
said my goodness

3245
03:02:14,899 --> 03:02:11,459
there's something going others you know

3246
03:02:18,160 --> 03:02:14,909
there's somebody doing I don't know what

3247
03:02:22,760 --> 03:02:18,170
it is but there is something going on

3248
03:02:25,849 --> 03:02:22,770
and she described several paranormal

3249
03:02:28,399 --> 03:02:25,859
things that had happened nothing that

3250
03:02:31,340 --> 03:02:28,409
was earth-shattering reason remembering

3251
03:02:34,939 --> 03:02:31,350
I I can't even remember if they were so

3252
03:02:37,279 --> 03:02:34,949
insignificant I mean you know sort of

3253
03:02:39,559 --> 03:02:37,289
like oh yeah I found the best parking

3254
03:02:41,830 --> 03:02:39,569
spot at the grocery store today because

3255
03:02:46,420 --> 03:02:41,840
I could feel it my mind

3256
03:02:50,569 --> 03:02:46,430
okay well that's kind of kindergarten

3257
03:02:52,340 --> 03:02:50,579
really so Jocelyn like a lot of our

3258
03:02:55,279 --> 03:02:52,350
listeners are very new new to the

3259
03:02:57,769 --> 03:02:55,289
subject so that's a very great way to

3260
03:03:00,290 --> 03:02:57,779
put it and you know you never forget

3261
03:03:03,649 --> 03:03:00,300
like everybody needs a reminder that

3262
03:03:06,170 --> 03:03:03,659
this stuff is it's weird and sometimes

3263
03:03:08,719 --> 03:03:06,180
you need a little bit of an analogy to

3264
03:03:10,639 --> 03:03:08,729
go along with the story that actually

3265
03:03:13,099 --> 03:03:10,649
happened to somebody and we're looking

3266
03:03:15,199 --> 03:03:13,109
at this photo and I'm just I'm seeing

3267
03:03:17,120 --> 03:03:15,209
this humanoid figure and obviously

3268
03:03:19,819 --> 03:03:17,130
there's two glowing lights and there's

3269
03:03:21,920 --> 03:03:19,829
like a white body figure and it seems

3270
03:03:25,010 --> 03:03:21,930
like a forearm is kind of crossing

3271
03:03:27,469 --> 03:03:25,020
crossing his pelvic you know his pelvic

3272
03:03:29,479 --> 03:03:27,479
region and it just it looks it looks

3273
03:03:31,370 --> 03:03:29,489
like somebody that's that's walking

3274
03:03:33,139 --> 03:03:31,380
across the camera I don't I don't know

3275
03:03:34,910 --> 03:03:33,149
maybe he's flexing his muscles or

3276
03:03:42,559 --> 03:03:34,920
something but it's definitely something

3277
03:03:46,069 --> 03:03:42,569
yeah yeah yeah well like I said this is

3278
03:03:48,260 --> 03:03:46,079
just one of those photos that was taken

3279
03:03:50,059 --> 03:03:48,270
randomly they didn't know what they had

3280
03:03:56,120 --> 03:03:50,069
until the next day

3281
03:03:59,210 --> 03:03:56,130
so even Tom isn't quite sure when this

3282
03:04:03,290 --> 03:03:59,220
was taken or or we can tell by the post

3283
03:04:09,970 --> 03:04:03,300
on the left that it was taken somewhere

3284
03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:14,470
you know and was after this that Tom

3285
03:04:23,051 --> 03:04:18,010
started taking really detailed notes

3286
03:04:27,820 --> 03:04:23,061
about the photos that he had he was

3287
03:04:31,990 --> 03:04:27,830
taking the humid day I mean the sky

3288
03:04:35,740 --> 03:04:32,000
would capture the most phenomenal things

3289
03:04:40,030 --> 03:04:35,750
I've been out there with him standing

3290
03:04:43,500 --> 03:04:40,040
right next to him taking photos and not

3291
03:04:46,780 --> 03:04:43,510
capturing what he was capturing

3292
03:04:49,000 --> 03:04:46,790
first-person experience realizing that

3293
03:04:50,530 --> 03:04:49,010
you're just taking photos this law that

3294
03:04:52,631 --> 03:04:50,540
you guys have I mean I think it's a

3295
03:04:55,330 --> 03:04:52,641
great law it's like just take photos

3296
03:04:57,580 --> 03:04:55,340
often and out in the into the abyss I

3297
03:04:59,860 --> 03:04:57,590
think it's a great practice for anybody

3298
03:05:03,100 --> 03:04:59,870
that's out there and these possible

3299
03:05:05,591 --> 03:05:03,110
vortices locations and no you're really

3300
03:05:08,921 --> 03:05:05,601
just anywhere when you're kind of being

3301
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:08,931
open to accepting inter-dimensional

3302
03:05:14,341 --> 03:05:12,010
possibly interdimensional beings

3303
03:05:20,890 --> 03:05:14,351
yeah great photo so definitely

3304
03:05:25,830 --> 03:05:20,900
absolutely can we go on to 22 yes this

3305
03:05:29,410 --> 03:05:25,840
is another one that a client sent I

3306
03:05:32,350 --> 03:05:29,420
believe she sent this to Tom dongho

3307
03:05:36,070 --> 03:05:32,360
first and then sent it on to me or or

3308
03:05:40,870 --> 03:05:36,080
had copied me on it and this is a photo

3309
03:05:44,801 --> 03:05:40,880
that she had taken after meditation on

3310
03:05:47,890 --> 03:05:44,811
top of Airport Mesa Wow yeah you can see

3311
03:05:51,100 --> 03:05:47,900
the trees in in the foreground and

3312
03:05:54,970 --> 03:05:51,110
there's a light coming from above the

3313
03:05:59,470 --> 03:05:54,980
cameras I think that's the moon

3314
03:06:03,131 --> 03:05:59,480
okay and I think you know and then

3315
03:06:05,051 --> 03:06:03,141
shaped captured of some sort of I want

3316
03:06:11,620 --> 03:06:05,061
to say that this is some sort of limb

3317
03:06:13,570 --> 03:06:11,630
there but it is sort of impossible angle

3318
03:06:15,790 --> 03:06:13,580
to get a lunch there yeah it's really

3319
03:06:19,171 --> 03:06:15,800
solid you know for all these claims of I

3320
03:06:21,880 --> 03:06:19,181
mean Jocelyn I'm not saying that your

3321
03:06:26,019 --> 03:06:21,890
your speculation is

3322
03:06:29,050 --> 03:06:26,029
is unfounded a lot of people claim a lot

3323
03:06:31,929 --> 03:06:29,060
of these orbs or whatever is lens flares

3324
03:06:33,580 --> 03:06:31,939
I just man I'd love I know a few

3325
03:06:36,550 --> 03:06:33,590
photographers I kind of want to now

3326
03:06:38,769 --> 03:06:36,560
approached them and hey like hey can you

3327
03:06:41,139 --> 03:06:38,779
recreate this and what conditions can

3328
03:06:43,090 --> 03:06:41,149
you recreate this I'd love to see what

3329
03:06:46,019 --> 03:06:43,100
they may exactly exactly

3330
03:06:48,639 --> 03:06:46,029
I'm not I'm not saying that oh I'm like

3331
03:06:50,860 --> 03:06:48,649
everything's wrong and you know it can't

3332
03:06:52,389 --> 03:06:50,870
be a lens flare I'm totally being open

3333
03:06:55,840 --> 03:06:52,399
to the possibility I think you are too

3334
03:06:58,960 --> 03:06:55,850
and I think Joe is too you know I let me

3335
03:07:03,189 --> 03:06:58,970
refer you back to the photo where I took

3336
03:07:07,630 --> 03:07:03,199
of my free my three girlfriends with the

3337
03:07:10,450 --> 03:07:07,640
rainbow around them I had an intuitive

3338
03:07:15,429 --> 03:07:10,460
feeling at that time to take that photo

3339
03:07:18,639 --> 03:07:15,439
and I think this woman had a same

3340
03:07:24,370 --> 03:07:18,649
intuitive feeling to take the photo and

3341
03:07:26,410 --> 03:07:24,380
if we follow our intuition and we try to

3342
03:07:28,660 --> 03:07:26,420
be better people

3343
03:07:30,610 --> 03:07:28,670
you know that's I think that's all we

3344
03:07:34,570 --> 03:07:30,620
need to do to save the world

3345
03:07:37,840 --> 03:07:34,580
ooh preach yes that's beautiful

3346
03:07:41,019 --> 03:07:37,850
absolutely absolutely that mean that's

3347
03:07:44,139 --> 03:07:41,029
that's that's beautiful I love that I

3348
03:07:45,910 --> 03:07:44,149
think you know as we're talking through

3349
03:07:49,540 --> 03:07:45,920
these photos I mean obviously these are

3350
03:07:52,300 --> 03:07:49,550
just phenomenal photos I've seen photos

3351
03:07:55,120 --> 03:07:52,310
I'm so excited about these things and

3352
03:07:57,639 --> 03:07:55,130
it's caught up as I can get into the

3353
03:07:59,800 --> 03:07:57,649
physical evidence of things the thing

3354
03:08:04,240 --> 03:07:59,810
that I try to hold on to you I think Joe

3355
03:08:06,399 --> 03:08:04,250
as well too is is that the the mind the

3356
03:08:10,360 --> 03:08:06,409
the state of mind that you have to be in

3357
03:08:12,160 --> 03:08:10,370
and it's not about the physical proof in

3358
03:08:14,170 --> 03:08:12,170
it again maybe it might be giving

3359
03:08:16,450 --> 03:08:14,180
getting back to religion all that stuff

3360
03:08:19,300 --> 03:08:16,460
you just have to believe but I feel like

3361
03:08:21,309 --> 03:08:19,310
there is physical proof of you know

3362
03:08:23,110 --> 03:08:21,319
let's say the word prayer because

3363
03:08:25,479 --> 03:08:23,120
everybody knows what prayer means and

3364
03:08:28,360 --> 03:08:25,489
everybody's in on the same thought

3365
03:08:31,090 --> 03:08:28,370
process there's something to it you know

3366
03:08:33,010 --> 03:08:31,100
at the universally because you know

3367
03:08:34,160 --> 03:08:33,020
people get really offended by the word

3368
03:08:37,820 --> 03:08:34,170
prayer

3369
03:08:42,019 --> 03:08:37,830
but they don't even mind the words

3370
03:08:44,870 --> 03:08:42,029
meditation meditation this prayer except

3371
03:08:49,780 --> 03:08:44,880
where you listen and stuff speak oh my

3372
03:08:55,070 --> 03:08:52,639
you know I get tired of this good

3373
03:08:56,290 --> 03:08:55,080
systemic world we live in sometimes

3374
03:08:58,639 --> 03:08:56,300
don't you

3375
03:09:00,380 --> 03:08:58,649
absolutely what me and Joe come to visit

3376
03:09:03,200 --> 03:09:00,390
you and Sedona let's meditate for the

3377
03:09:08,510 --> 03:09:03,210
first few hours when we get there let's

3378
03:09:12,740 --> 03:09:08,520
listen right I think so okay so here's

3379
03:09:17,719 --> 03:09:12,750
my image number 23 this is also one that

3380
03:09:19,519 --> 03:09:17,729
come down go gave to me and I don't know

3381
03:09:21,610 --> 03:09:19,529
what this is explain was to our

3382
03:09:27,530 --> 03:09:21,620
listeners what we're looking at who can

3383
03:09:29,479 --> 03:09:27,540
you see you see the skyline of our Red

3384
03:09:33,769 --> 03:09:29,489
Rocks you can see that there is a

3385
03:09:38,360 --> 03:09:33,779
quarter moon but there is a big flare in

3386
03:09:40,580 --> 03:09:38,370
the middle now there's a house or or I

3387
03:09:43,460 --> 03:09:40,590
don't know maybe that could be an oil

3388
03:09:46,309 --> 03:09:43,470
down on the ground but what we're really

3389
03:09:51,320 --> 03:09:46,319
looking for looking at is this huge

3390
03:09:56,000 --> 03:09:51,330
flare and the sky and this was reported

3391
03:09:59,240 --> 03:09:56,010
by a lot of Sidonians I did not see it

3392
03:10:06,250 --> 03:09:59,250
but I did hear about it

3393
03:10:21,170 --> 03:10:14,420
2:30 between 2:30 and and 2:40 sometime

3394
03:10:26,179 --> 03:10:21,180
in that houses just lit up all over that

3395
03:10:30,710 --> 03:10:26,189
particular area like you know the Sun

3396
03:10:33,740 --> 03:10:30,720
had come up and you know their house is

3397
03:10:38,929 --> 03:10:33,750
flooded with this light right so it's

3398
03:10:41,190 --> 03:10:38,939
it's lasted for about an hour and then

3399
03:10:44,011 --> 03:10:41,200
it went away

3400
03:10:46,950 --> 03:10:44,021
in this photo the the light this very

3401
03:10:50,131 --> 03:10:46,960
strong light is behind cathedral rock

3402
03:10:54,270 --> 03:10:50,141
and there's this beam it's not a beam

3403
03:10:57,030 --> 03:10:54,280
it's like almost like a circular almost

3404
03:11:00,091 --> 03:10:57,040
a disc shape to wear below the disk

3405
03:11:02,640 --> 03:11:00,101
shape is this protrusion of light that's

3406
03:11:07,140 --> 03:11:02,650
kind of going down I mean it looks like

3407
03:11:10,921 --> 03:11:07,150
the depiction of like old you know da

3408
03:11:12,960 --> 03:11:10,931
Vinci era paintings like realistic yeah

3409
03:11:14,930 --> 03:11:12,970
yeah yeah like I'm the Holy Spirit or

3410
03:11:17,940 --> 03:11:14,940
something coming out of the sky yeah

3411
03:11:19,950 --> 03:11:17,950
yeah like Renaissance type type

3412
03:11:21,750 --> 03:11:19,960
paintings yeah that's exactly what it

3413
03:11:25,680 --> 03:11:21,760
looks like dude yeah absolutely

3414
03:11:27,990 --> 03:11:25,690
yeah it's incredible which which also

3415
03:11:30,720 --> 03:11:28,000
brings up another topic of conversation

3416
03:11:32,580 --> 03:11:30,730
is like all right these people in the

3417
03:11:35,940 --> 03:11:32,590
1500s let's say they're starting at the

3418
03:11:36,900 --> 03:11:35,950
1200s all right they're not just making

3419
03:11:39,091 --> 03:11:36,910
stuff up

3420
03:11:42,600 --> 03:11:39,101
they're writing things that they saw

3421
03:11:46,890 --> 03:11:42,610
that's the best they can do aha this

3422
03:11:50,210 --> 03:11:46,900
photo is so indicative of then like it

3423
03:11:54,990 --> 03:11:50,220
just I'm at a loss for words of how

3424
03:11:57,180 --> 03:11:55,000
similar this depiction is of paintings

3425
03:12:00,210 --> 03:11:57,190
that I've seen of witness accounts that

3426
03:12:09,091 --> 03:12:00,220
I've read it's it's phenomenal I just

3427
03:12:15,960 --> 03:12:09,101
love it I don't want to break my friend

3428
03:12:19,650 --> 03:12:15,970
lorian's three-hour okay so as amateurs

3429
03:12:23,040 --> 03:12:19,660
number 24 jocelyn sedona images number

3430
03:12:25,230 --> 03:12:23,050
24 this is going back to that same night

3431
03:12:29,220 --> 03:12:25,240
with that woman that we had talked about

3432
03:12:33,480 --> 03:12:29,230
a few photos ago and she was taking a

3433
03:12:38,370 --> 03:12:33,490
photo of tom that what you see is this

3434
03:12:41,341 --> 03:12:38,380
orange portal it was like a door and it

3435
03:12:44,760 --> 03:12:41,351
looks like even a gray is standing over

3436
03:12:49,439 --> 03:12:44,770
it like it's some sort of barred

3437
03:12:52,800 --> 03:12:49,449
and Thomas directly taking photo of it

3438
03:12:58,229 --> 03:12:52,810
there's a lot of orbs around there's

3439
03:13:07,319 --> 03:12:58,239
some energetic I don't know it looks

3440
03:13:09,809 --> 03:13:07,329
like lightning that looks less like it

3441
03:13:11,609 --> 03:13:09,819
has been slowed down by a thousand

3442
03:13:16,019 --> 03:13:11,619
percent or something I don't know

3443
03:13:21,190 --> 03:13:16,029
yeah and at least two guys now Thomas

3444
03:13:22,369 --> 03:13:21,200
taking these two that is there from a

3445
03:13:26,189 --> 03:13:22,379
[Music]

3446
03:13:29,179 --> 03:13:26,199
like a History Channel or something like

3447
03:13:32,130 --> 03:13:29,189
that they're doing some documentary Oh

3448
03:13:36,929 --> 03:13:32,140
what I want you to look is kind of step

3449
03:13:45,289 --> 03:13:36,939
back and and use your eyes and see if

3450
03:13:53,519 --> 03:13:49,819
that has only way that I can describe it

3451
03:14:00,210 --> 03:13:53,529
but it also has a consciousness because

3452
03:14:04,889 --> 03:14:00,220
you can see the that there are eyes and

3453
03:14:08,539 --> 03:14:04,899
a nose and on the right hand side that

3454
03:14:12,510 --> 03:14:08,549
wavy stuff is his hair he's kind of

3455
03:14:15,559 --> 03:14:12,520
dark-colored home the very long face has

3456
03:14:20,760 --> 03:14:15,569
got these eyes that are looking down at

3457
03:14:24,210 --> 03:14:20,770
Tom taking this photo and on the even on

3458
03:14:29,809 --> 03:14:24,220
the right hand side you can kind of see

3459
03:14:32,999 --> 03:14:29,819
his hair coming down yeah yeah rain

3460
03:14:37,619 --> 03:14:33,009
something else that is behind him that

3461
03:14:40,289 --> 03:14:37,629
is square either that is what I called

3462
03:14:46,260 --> 03:14:40,299
the orange man or the square orange man

3463
03:14:49,199 --> 03:14:46,270
yeah AB that is Tom is directly looking

3464
03:14:54,449 --> 03:14:49,209
and taking a photo of but if they are

3465
03:14:57,331 --> 03:14:54,459
completely surrounded by these urges and

3466
03:15:02,071 --> 03:14:57,341
the bright the bright or

3467
03:15:05,581 --> 03:15:02,081
on the right that is I believe is sort

3468
03:15:07,261 --> 03:15:05,591
of a guardian or I've taken photos of

3469
03:15:09,390 --> 03:15:07,271
that before right

3470
03:15:11,041 --> 03:15:09,400
yeah that's whatever it is it's

3471
03:15:13,531 --> 03:15:11,051
definitely something is there oh

3472
03:15:15,991 --> 03:15:13,541
whatever it is he he likes toms vibe

3473
03:15:18,781 --> 03:15:16,001
because yeah it looks like he's wrapped

3474
03:15:20,491 --> 03:15:18,791
around him he's like hey you're cool the

3475
03:15:26,751 --> 03:15:20,501
other guy's [\h__\h] these guys because it's

3476
03:15:29,911 --> 03:15:26,761
like lightning going on yeah yeah and

3477
03:15:31,561 --> 03:15:29,921
like I said it's really good energy our

3478
03:15:34,201 --> 03:15:31,571
language by the way

3479
03:15:35,821 --> 03:15:34,211
well yeah it's really good energy out

3480
03:15:37,741 --> 03:15:35,831
there because I want you to really take

3481
03:15:42,201 --> 03:15:37,751
a look at this photo I want you to see

3482
03:15:48,091 --> 03:15:42,211
that what I called his hairs is way the

3483
03:15:51,661 --> 03:15:48,101
gold a wiry stuff that you know goes in

3484
03:15:54,211 --> 03:15:51,671
and out but look how it hugs Tom's back

3485
03:15:56,941 --> 03:15:54,221
that's right to this back yeah

3486
03:15:59,731 --> 03:15:56,951
absolutely it's like it's patting him of

3487
03:16:03,301 --> 03:15:59,741
pulling him in it seems like there's

3488
03:16:07,021 --> 03:16:03,311
there's definitely him and fan yeah you

3489
03:16:09,720 --> 03:16:07,031
know love you yeah there's like he's

3490
03:16:12,271 --> 03:16:09,730
definitely chosen who there's three

3491
03:16:14,761 --> 03:16:12,281
people he's chosen or whatever this

3492
03:16:17,191 --> 03:16:14,771
entity is there's got to be a chakra

3493
03:16:18,991 --> 03:16:17,201
there it's like hey you're good you're

3494
03:16:21,211 --> 03:16:19,001
good people and then it's looking at

3495
03:16:23,850 --> 03:16:21,221
these other guys giving you know the two

3496
03:16:27,091 --> 03:16:23,860
off to the left no well the other two

3497
03:16:31,171 --> 03:16:27,101
guys have this other special energy look

3498
03:16:36,111 --> 03:16:31,181
at that guy on the left has his arm up

3499
03:16:42,541 --> 03:16:36,121
and that energy is encircling his hand

3500
03:16:49,790 --> 03:16:42,551
on his arm up and it's touching into the

3501
03:16:52,761 --> 03:16:51,950
now that you point that out yeah that

3502
03:16:54,740 --> 03:16:52,771
was incredible

3503
03:16:57,711 --> 03:16:54,750
I guess I was just making jokes but no

3504
03:17:02,450 --> 03:16:57,721
as I see saying that that totally makes

3505
03:17:05,930 --> 03:17:02,460
sense i i'm i use this as like um you

3506
03:17:08,930 --> 03:17:05,940
know the message of the e t--'s is that

3507
03:17:11,961 --> 03:17:08,940
when you look at photos like this this

3508
03:17:15,680 --> 03:17:11,971
is this is their love for us this is

3509
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:15,690
their caring they're they're trying to

3510
03:17:24,320 --> 03:17:19,110
inspire this is remember this is right

3511
03:17:27,500 --> 03:17:24,330
next door to the mother herself we're

3512
03:17:31,540 --> 03:17:27,510
all her little babies you go out there

3513
03:17:36,650 --> 03:17:31,550
you get your you know your it's

3514
03:17:40,940 --> 03:17:36,660
unconditional love right now it's the

3515
03:17:44,780 --> 03:17:40,950
government want to corner the market on

3516
03:17:48,711 --> 03:17:44,790
unconditional love oh I love that I

3517
03:17:49,580 --> 03:17:48,721
don't know I don't know it's okay let's

3518
03:17:51,620 --> 03:17:49,590
think about that

3519
03:17:52,820 --> 03:17:51,630
yeah all right as we go onto the next

3520
03:18:00,801 --> 03:17:52,830
photo

3521
03:18:03,440 --> 03:18:00,811
to me this is called the birthing cave

3522
03:18:06,711 --> 03:18:03,450
anybody that wants information about how

3523
03:18:11,780 --> 03:18:06,721
to get there you see the umbilical cord

3524
03:18:13,820 --> 03:18:11,790
that goes house - yes I mean I'm sorry

3525
03:18:14,690 --> 03:18:13,830
but doesn't this look like somebody

3526
03:18:18,200 --> 03:18:14,700
giving birth

3527
03:18:23,930 --> 03:18:18,210
that's incredible yes yes a little line

3528
03:18:28,850 --> 03:18:23,940
coming out hiking out to the birthing

3529
03:18:31,640 --> 03:18:28,860
cave in the long canyon area you can

3530
03:18:34,910 --> 03:18:31,650
probably look it up on the internet and

3531
03:18:38,450 --> 03:18:34,920
find out how to get out there and buy

3532
03:18:44,631 --> 03:18:38,460
her friend but you know here she is she

3533
03:18:48,730 --> 03:18:44,641
is she is going to oh man you know do

3534
03:18:52,220 --> 03:18:48,740
you want to be her yeah maybe I do yeah

3535
03:18:53,900 --> 03:18:52,230
what's it looks like to me this is one

3536
03:18:58,341 --> 03:18:53,910
of the reasons that people come to

3537
03:19:01,671 --> 03:18:58,351
Sedona they don't even know and and how

3538
03:19:03,090 --> 03:19:01,681
can you explain this yeah is like again

3539
03:19:05,250 --> 03:19:03,100
people know

3540
03:19:07,260 --> 03:19:05,260
intuitively that they want to come out

3541
03:19:09,779 --> 03:19:07,270
to Sedona they want to connect to the

3542
03:19:11,670 --> 03:19:09,789
things that will heal them they will

3543
03:19:15,059 --> 03:19:11,680
want to connect to the things that will

3544
03:19:18,899 --> 03:19:15,069
bring them higher consciousness but you

3545
03:19:21,809 --> 03:19:18,909
know how do you do that yeah this is how

3546
03:19:24,179 --> 03:19:21,819
you do it you walk up Haring you ask for

3547
03:19:26,609 --> 03:19:24,189
the experience right you could do that

3548
03:19:29,849 --> 03:19:26,619
you could just guess but I mean I feel

3549
03:19:33,059 --> 03:19:29,859
like I do you know I'll gladly take

3550
03:19:35,519 --> 03:19:33,069
somebody out there for $300 I love the

3551
03:19:45,899 --> 03:19:35,529
money but there we really get a [\h__\h]

3552
03:19:51,659 --> 03:19:45,909
map right for the next one this is also

3553
03:19:54,840 --> 03:19:51,669
taken going down into Bearwallow a UFO

3554
03:19:59,189 --> 03:19:54,850
than whether I was sort of telling you

3555
03:20:03,380 --> 03:19:59,199
about Kayla and I both saw something

3556
03:20:08,639 --> 03:20:03,390
very similar that's taken from uptown

3557
03:20:13,349 --> 03:20:08,649
it's image 26 right okay so this is the

3558
03:20:17,609 --> 03:20:13,359
photos that I decided to share this is a

3559
03:20:22,170 --> 03:20:17,619
photo of me taking what I think is a

3560
03:20:26,579 --> 03:20:22,180
photo of a UFO so Jocelyn White and yeah

3561
03:20:30,569 --> 03:20:26,589
and cam took a photo Kim got one of

3562
03:20:36,090 --> 03:20:30,579
those messages of take a photo down and

3563
03:20:40,229 --> 03:20:36,100
so Kim Carlsberg who is you know first

3564
03:20:44,069 --> 03:20:40,239
person first female to be inducted into

3565
03:20:48,139 --> 03:20:44,079
the photographer Hall of Fame took this

3566
03:20:51,029 --> 03:20:48,149
photo of me and she said I have been

3567
03:20:55,930 --> 03:20:51,039
taking photos of you all day and this

3568
03:20:58,850 --> 03:20:55,940
light beam is following you oh cool

3569
03:21:02,841 --> 03:20:58,860
so in all of your photos is light beam

3570
03:21:06,051 --> 03:21:02,851
is showing up yeah in her photos of

3571
03:21:08,330 --> 03:21:06,061
whenever she took photos of me so that's

3572
03:21:10,180 --> 03:21:08,340
me taking a photo I'm looking toward

3573
03:21:14,091 --> 03:21:10,190
Mingus Mountain

3574
03:21:18,230 --> 03:21:14,101
we're at the Bradshaw branch and I'm

3575
03:21:22,100 --> 03:21:18,240
taking I feel a UFO so I'm taking a

3576
03:21:24,261 --> 03:21:22,110
photo of what I think is a UFO and Kim's

3577
03:21:26,961 --> 03:21:24,271
taking a photo of me and she said oh

3578
03:21:33,230 --> 03:21:26,971
yeah every time I took a photo of you

3579
03:21:34,251 --> 03:21:33,240
today this guy showed up and she and a

3580
03:21:38,410 --> 03:21:34,261
photographer

3581
03:21:40,430 --> 03:21:38,420
inducted into the Hall of Famers yeah

3582
03:21:44,240 --> 03:21:40,440
you know she knows the difference

3583
03:21:44,961 --> 03:21:44,250
between a lens flare and you know

3584
03:21:47,390 --> 03:21:44,971
something else

3585
03:21:49,370 --> 03:21:47,400
that's something important to include I

3586
03:21:51,230 --> 03:21:49,380
mean this person that's doing this for a

3587
03:21:54,370 --> 03:21:51,240
living she knows the difference right

3588
03:21:57,921 --> 03:21:54,380
absolutely right right right

3589
03:22:02,360 --> 03:21:57,931
okay the next this is one the marine

3590
03:22:04,610 --> 03:22:02,370
temple the reason I included this is if

3591
03:22:12,251 --> 03:22:04,620
you look up in the sky you'll see these

3592
03:22:16,430 --> 03:22:12,261
little gray orbs and I believe that is

3593
03:22:22,370 --> 03:22:16,440
one of their ships now I have done many

3594
03:22:27,761 --> 03:22:22,380
meditations about this spot and this in

3595
03:22:33,470 --> 03:22:27,771
my meditations and my remote viewing was

3596
03:22:40,190 --> 03:22:33,480
the holy temple of Lemuria when Sedona

3597
03:22:42,980 --> 03:22:40,200
was 'innahu the Crystal City ah man so

3598
03:22:46,850 --> 03:22:42,990
so because underneath of all the rock

3599
03:22:49,551 --> 03:22:46,860
and the red stuff the dust it's it's all

3600
03:22:53,810 --> 03:22:49,561
crystal so at one time there must have

3601
03:22:57,530 --> 03:22:53,820
been you know just nothing but crystal

3602
03:23:01,100 --> 03:22:57,540
to like for the eye to see right at some

3603
03:23:04,910 --> 03:23:01,110
point well yeah and are I told you

3604
03:23:07,711 --> 03:23:04,920
before I did a meditation with Paige

3605
03:23:11,131 --> 03:23:07,721
Brent and Paige Brian

3606
03:23:14,430 --> 03:23:11,141
sort of famous around Sedona for really

3607
03:23:20,541 --> 03:23:14,440
pointing out to everybody hey got some

3608
03:23:23,940 --> 03:23:20,551
mortises here and I had met her during

3609
03:23:26,251 --> 03:23:23,950
you know one of the soldiers that I had

3610
03:23:32,310 --> 03:23:26,261
done to Sedona before I moved here full

3611
03:23:35,581 --> 03:23:32,320
time and I did this meditation and I I

3612
03:23:39,360 --> 03:23:35,591
am a remote viewer and we decided to

3613
03:23:44,690 --> 03:23:39,370
remote view Sedona during memory and

3614
03:23:49,801 --> 03:23:44,700
times and what we saw was a Crystal City

3615
03:23:54,600 --> 03:23:49,811
that floated on a water I was a water

3616
03:23:56,490 --> 03:23:54,610
passage that went down into the Gulf of

3617
03:23:58,350 --> 03:23:56,500
Mexico now that I mean the Gulf of

3618
03:24:04,051 --> 03:23:58,360
California oh wow

3619
03:24:09,751 --> 03:24:04,061
and and I just think about if the

3620
03:24:13,020 --> 03:24:09,761
Colorado River were six times the size

3621
03:24:17,001 --> 03:24:13,030
it is now oh man that would be huge

3622
03:24:20,490 --> 03:24:17,011
and you know I completely flooded into

3623
03:24:24,900 --> 03:24:20,500
the whole Verde Valley that was a just a

3624
03:24:28,560 --> 03:24:24,910
big pretty much a bigger lake but it was

3625
03:24:32,280 --> 03:24:28,570
but Sedona was some sort of port city

3626
03:24:37,501 --> 03:24:32,290
because we were also getting UFOs as

3627
03:24:40,161 --> 03:24:37,511
well as you know sea shipments from all

3628
03:24:45,270 --> 03:24:40,171
over the globe yeah absolutely yeah

3629
03:24:49,320 --> 03:24:45,280
right okay so this is the Lemurian

3630
03:24:55,020 --> 03:24:49,330
temple if you look at it you look at

3631
03:24:58,770 --> 03:24:55,030
it's a beautiful pyramid on top and the

3632
03:25:01,940 --> 03:24:58,780
columns that are beneath the pyramid and

3633
03:25:08,541 --> 03:25:01,950
how it went out in the staircase

3634
03:25:11,251 --> 03:25:08,551
fashion's toward the sea oh cool yeah

3635
03:25:16,411 --> 03:25:11,261
yeah I definitely see it yeah absolutely

3636
03:25:20,820 --> 03:25:16,421
all right you know as you can see there

3637
03:25:26,219 --> 03:25:20,830
are some dots in the sky

3638
03:25:30,120 --> 03:25:26,229
but in when I saw those they were silver

3639
03:25:35,840 --> 03:25:30,130
and I knew that they had something to do

3640
03:25:39,380 --> 03:25:35,850
with is they still they come back and

3641
03:25:43,559 --> 03:25:39,390
they haven't been back in a long time

3642
03:25:46,950 --> 03:25:43,569
let's talk about geological years and

3643
03:25:52,760 --> 03:25:46,960
you know what has happened and why it's

3644
03:25:55,620 --> 03:25:52,770
important but you know the Annunaki back

3645
03:25:58,170 --> 03:25:55,630
6,000 years ago said we're going to come

3646
03:26:01,260 --> 03:25:58,180
back Sakurai stitch and said yeah

3647
03:26:04,950 --> 03:26:01,270
they're going to come back yeah and so

3648
03:26:06,900 --> 03:26:04,960
now they're coming back oh man holy [\h__\h]

3649
03:26:19,309 --> 03:26:06,910
yeah [\h__\h] is right yeah they're coming

3650
03:26:22,800 --> 03:26:19,319
back in 600 for 130 yes this is the old

3651
03:26:26,910 --> 03:26:22,810
you know you can go back to where the

3652
03:26:31,559 --> 03:26:26,920
photo of my husband standing in it 10

3653
03:26:33,240 --> 03:26:31,569
foot tall still enclosure of Bradsher

3654
03:26:37,469 --> 03:26:33,250
ranch this is what it used to look like

3655
03:26:42,270 --> 03:26:37,479
oh cool is there anything is there there

3656
03:26:55,590 --> 03:26:42,280
is this one time that I came up with Kim

3657
03:27:01,650 --> 03:26:55,600
and Miriam Delicato and Sandra O'Donnell

3658
03:27:05,450 --> 03:27:01,660
Oh Sandra oh man you should get her man

3659
03:27:09,469 --> 03:27:05,460
okay so anyway we're out there and

3660
03:27:14,840 --> 03:27:09,479
Sandra just said my star people are here

3661
03:27:18,719 --> 03:27:14,850
and I just immediately started taking

3662
03:27:21,270 --> 03:27:18,729
random photos and so that's one of the

3663
03:27:24,150 --> 03:27:21,280
random photos is we got an orb right at

3664
03:27:28,820 --> 03:27:24,160
the front gate of redshire ranch when

3665
03:27:32,190 --> 03:27:28,830
Sandra Donnell said Anne O'Donnell said

3666
03:27:36,960 --> 03:27:32,200
my star people are here there

3667
03:27:38,610 --> 03:27:36,970
is right above the clothes right there

3668
03:27:43,220 --> 03:27:38,620
there they are

3669
03:27:46,850 --> 03:27:43,230
okay so the next one this is UFO root

3670
03:27:53,580 --> 03:27:46,860
sport and you can see that there are

3671
03:27:58,680 --> 03:27:53,590
four or five maybe over this little

3672
03:28:01,740 --> 03:27:58,690
thing that looks like a rock formation

3673
03:28:07,250 --> 03:28:01,750
that looks like a mushroom and then one

3674
03:28:11,040 --> 03:28:07,260
that looks like a squirrel and okay

3675
03:28:13,860 --> 03:28:11,050
alright so this is a remember I showed

3676
03:28:20,490 --> 03:28:13,870
you the photos earlier of the

3677
03:28:25,890 --> 03:28:20,500
petroglyphs with the the white tall

3678
03:28:28,591 --> 03:28:25,900
white yeah yeah okay okay so the this is

3679
03:28:31,560 --> 03:28:28,601
taken at a distance but we're looking

3680
03:28:34,620 --> 03:28:31,570
directly into that Canyon

3681
03:28:40,530 --> 03:28:34,630
underneath that mushroom that darkest

3682
03:28:43,980 --> 03:28:40,540
part and this is taken from the

3683
03:28:46,190 --> 03:28:43,990
viewpoint of Brecher ranch I'm standing

3684
03:28:52,171 --> 03:28:46,200
on the High Point a branch a ranch I'm

3685
03:29:01,020 --> 03:28:52,181
looking toward woo ranch and I caught

3686
03:29:04,730 --> 03:29:01,030
those for definite I think though that

3687
03:29:09,480 --> 03:29:04,740
it might be the four corners of one

3688
03:29:13,801 --> 03:29:09,490
craft but definitely I knew that they

3689
03:29:16,290 --> 03:29:13,811
were there I I could like I feel it from

3690
03:29:19,261 --> 03:29:16,300
the top of my head to the bottom my

3691
03:29:22,320 --> 03:29:19,271
chest I knew they were there and I knew

3692
03:29:26,970 --> 03:29:22,330
they were monitoring us so that's not

3693
03:29:32,280 --> 03:29:26,980
like you yeah alright there again is

3694
03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:32,290
that bell-shaped craft go on because oh

3695
03:29:44,230 --> 03:29:36,010
that was the last photo yeah yes oh okay

3696
03:29:46,240 --> 03:29:44,240
so oh my gosh three eyes again

3697
03:29:50,950 --> 03:29:46,250
that was incredible I was a perfect pace

3698
03:29:52,180 --> 03:29:50,960
I really I have not enjoyed myself more

3699
03:29:55,840 --> 03:29:52,190
than tonight

3700
03:29:58,090 --> 03:29:55,850
Jocelyn thank you so much oh my god yeah

3701
03:30:00,300 --> 03:29:58,100
how often do you get to see photos like

3702
03:30:04,000 --> 03:30:00,310
this and actually have somebody walking

3703
03:30:06,310 --> 03:30:04,010
through it you know each photo and kind

3704
03:30:08,350 --> 03:30:06,320
of give you the backstory of all of this

3705
03:30:11,170 --> 03:30:08,360
because you know as we sit here and we

3706
03:30:13,180 --> 03:30:11,180
we google things and we look at images

3707
03:30:15,280 --> 03:30:13,190
and we watch videos right it's always

3708
03:30:17,650 --> 03:30:15,290
such like a fast-paced type thing and

3709
03:30:20,230 --> 03:30:17,660
it's like oh I saw this cool video or I

3710
03:30:22,360 --> 03:30:20,240
saw this awesome photo check this out

3711
03:30:24,270 --> 03:30:22,370
but very rarely do you get the

3712
03:30:28,450 --> 03:30:24,280
opportunity to actually have somebody

3713
03:30:30,820 --> 03:30:28,460
talk you through a photo yeah explain to

3714
03:30:32,440 --> 03:30:30,830
you like the meaning behind all of it

3715
03:30:34,330 --> 03:30:32,450
and when you when you sent me these

3716
03:30:37,510 --> 03:30:34,340
photos Jocelyn I was like oh my god

3717
03:30:40,210 --> 03:30:37,520
that's a great idea why I have why

3718
03:30:43,480 --> 03:30:40,220
haven't we done this in the past but

3719
03:30:45,610 --> 03:30:43,490
like it only it just matched up so well

3720
03:30:51,700 --> 03:30:45,620
because number one I feel like you have

3721
03:30:53,560 --> 03:30:51,710
the the most the best evidence I've seen

3722
03:30:55,330 --> 03:30:53,570
in a really long time if people are

3723
03:30:57,670 --> 03:30:55,340
people are looking if you're just

3724
03:30:59,530 --> 03:30:57,680
listening our listeners what's up y'all

3725
03:31:02,140 --> 03:30:59,540
thank y'all for making it this far but I

3726
03:31:05,380 --> 03:31:02,150
just like people that are looking for

3727
03:31:08,969 --> 03:31:05,390
photo evidence this is the episode

3728
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:08,979
you're listening to Jocelyn like this

3729
03:31:13,840 --> 03:31:12,110
Jocelyn you've been in this for a really

3730
03:31:15,880 --> 03:31:13,850
long time you know what you're talking

3731
03:31:18,760 --> 03:31:15,890
about you've seen all there is to see

3732
03:31:20,800 --> 03:31:18,770
and you're not just like hey this could

3733
03:31:22,930 --> 03:31:20,810
be that you're giving us these this

3734
03:31:26,469 --> 03:31:22,940
evidence and you're giving us these our

3735
03:31:28,330 --> 03:31:26,479
listeners these photos of personal

3736
03:31:30,160 --> 03:31:28,340
accounts of people that you know have

3737
03:31:32,380 --> 03:31:30,170
sent you these things like this is the

3738
03:31:34,270 --> 03:31:32,390
best probably the best content you know

3739
03:31:35,620 --> 03:31:34,280
physical evidence content that we've had

3740
03:31:38,920 --> 03:31:35,630
on this podcast and they're really like

3741
03:31:41,230 --> 03:31:38,930
I really want to like highlight that for

3742
03:31:43,270 --> 03:31:41,240
a second because it's it's amazing if

3743
03:31:45,040 --> 03:31:43,280
you're just listening please go to our

3744
03:31:47,260 --> 03:31:45,050
website and click on this photo and

3745
03:31:49,510 --> 03:31:47,270
listen and listen to this podcast as

3746
03:31:53,670 --> 03:31:49,520
you're going through these photos as

3747
03:31:56,400 --> 03:31:53,680
we're talking about it oh gosh you guys

3748
03:32:05,610 --> 03:31:56,410
yeah Meow's Schieffelin

3749
03:32:09,780 --> 03:32:05,620
and Saxon and man I mean you could throw

3750
03:32:13,051 --> 03:32:09,790
a stone in Sedona and find somebody that

3751
03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:13,061
will give you solid evidence of

3752
03:32:18,930 --> 03:32:16,110
paranormal things that are happening in

3753
03:32:21,770 --> 03:32:18,940
Sedona and they'd be happy to talk to

3754
03:32:25,700 --> 03:32:21,780
you but I know that you've talked to

3755
03:32:30,301 --> 03:32:25,710
Lori and senton who is a good friend and

3756
03:32:34,341 --> 03:32:30,311
now you have to talk to Melinda Leslie

3757
03:32:40,011 --> 03:32:34,351
yeah yes that is your next logical step

3758
03:32:48,000 --> 03:32:44,060
she is you know tied at the hip with

3759
03:32:52,110 --> 03:32:48,010
Lori Ann Fenton and between the three of

3760
03:32:56,070 --> 03:32:52,120
us were just like you know the

3761
03:32:58,680 --> 03:32:56,080
troublemakers all we do that we knew

3762
03:33:01,980 --> 03:32:58,690
that much yeah you guys talk to us you

3763
03:33:06,150 --> 03:33:01,990
guys are the three Queen the point the

3764
03:33:08,511 --> 03:33:06,160
movie called the point everything that I

3765
03:33:13,051 --> 03:33:08,521
don't think I've ever seen that big so

3766
03:33:16,770 --> 03:33:13,061
okay well then you you see it and then

3767
03:33:22,410 --> 03:33:16,780
as you watch it you watch with the three

3768
03:33:26,730 --> 03:33:22,420
of us and I'm sure you'll find it now

3769
03:33:33,120 --> 03:33:26,740
check it out it's been so much fun you

3770
03:33:38,011 --> 03:33:33,130
guys were so much fun to meet and you

3771
03:33:42,480 --> 03:33:38,021
know that's that's one of the gifts that

3772
03:33:46,381 --> 03:33:42,490
I have as an intuitive is to speak to

3773
03:33:49,830 --> 03:33:46,391
people I need to introduce to the world

3774
03:33:52,650 --> 03:33:49,840
yeah well one thing that we we always

3775
03:33:55,710 --> 03:33:52,660
will remember is that I believe it was

3776
03:33:58,650 --> 03:33:55,720
you that told us you know you're here we

3777
03:34:01,350 --> 03:33:58,660
were at UFO Congress he said well you're

3778
03:34:05,630 --> 03:34:01,360
in it now there's no backing out right

3779
03:34:11,010 --> 03:34:08,820
totally something I would no no I loved

3780
03:34:13,080 --> 03:34:11,020
it you said you said you're you're here

3781
03:34:17,969 --> 03:34:13,090
to meet these people for a reason

3782
03:34:20,250 --> 03:34:17,979
absolutely absolutely you are I told you

3783
03:34:23,670 --> 03:34:20,260
before we need somebody to carry the

3784
03:34:26,580 --> 03:34:23,680
torch everybody's dying we are young

3785
03:34:32,040 --> 03:34:26,590
people we need the next generations take

3786
03:34:36,480 --> 03:34:32,050
over and to never forget and to you know

3787
03:34:40,260 --> 03:34:36,490
to look at things look I'm giving you a

3788
03:34:43,520 --> 03:34:40,270
big giant hint here go out there before

3789
03:34:46,679 --> 03:34:43,530
all the water is gone or maybe right

3790
03:34:49,679 --> 03:34:46,689
yeah absolutely I mean I have to say you

3791
03:34:53,070 --> 03:34:49,689
know I don't know if it's if it's just

3792
03:34:54,929 --> 03:34:53,080
coincidence or or if you know there's

3793
03:34:59,670 --> 03:34:54,939
something about it name you know I know

3794
03:35:01,380 --> 03:34:59,680
that Sedona Sedona calls you you know

3795
03:35:04,860 --> 03:35:01,390
what I'm saying we called you and and

3796
03:35:08,160 --> 03:35:04,870
absolutely and I have been before I even

3797
03:35:10,410 --> 03:35:08,170
went to Sedona I have been obsessed with

3798
03:35:13,740 --> 03:35:10,420
that area before I even knew anything

3799
03:35:16,980 --> 03:35:13,750
about it and for some reason I have

3800
03:35:19,440 --> 03:35:16,990
always wanted to go to Sedona and on my

3801
03:35:23,820 --> 03:35:19,450
honeymoon I finally got a chance to go

3802
03:35:27,030 --> 03:35:23,830
out there with my wife and then I I my

3803
03:35:29,100 --> 03:35:27,040
heart just stayed there in Sedona and

3804
03:35:31,950 --> 03:35:29,110
when me and Ben got the opportunity to

3805
03:35:34,320 --> 03:35:31,960
go up to Phoenix to go out to the UFO

3806
03:35:37,110 --> 03:35:34,330
Congress I told him that we were close

3807
03:35:40,620 --> 03:35:37,120
enough that we absolutely had to go to

3808
03:35:46,469 --> 03:35:40,630
Sedona and and check it out and every

3809
03:35:49,770 --> 03:35:46,479
time I go there you know I my my body is

3810
03:35:51,150 --> 03:35:49,780
completely different and yeah and I'm

3811
03:35:54,590 --> 03:35:51,160
one of those people who has a hard time

3812
03:35:58,620 --> 03:35:54,600
sleeping and anytime I'm in Sedona I

3813
03:36:02,940 --> 03:35:58,630
sleep like an absolute baby and I don't

3814
03:36:05,150 --> 03:36:02,950
know what it is but I feel like even

3815
03:36:09,060 --> 03:36:05,160
though I've only been there twice now

3816
03:36:11,400 --> 03:36:09,070
like men like I'm like I belong there

3817
03:36:14,610 --> 03:36:11,410
and my it's it's such a strange feeling

3818
03:36:16,469 --> 03:36:14,620
that that just comes over me and my wife

3819
03:36:17,970 --> 03:36:16,479
doesn't know this but we're we're

3820
03:36:21,230 --> 03:36:17,980
totally gonna go in on

3821
03:36:22,680 --> 03:36:21,240
Oh it'll have Z's on the house right

3822
03:36:26,671 --> 03:36:22,690
absolutely man

3823
03:36:30,030 --> 03:36:26,681
absolutely you know did I mention I have

3824
03:36:31,680 --> 03:36:30,040
a guest house all you have to do is let

3825
03:36:35,730 --> 03:36:31,690
me know when you're gonna be here I'll

3826
03:36:37,350 --> 03:36:35,740
happily host your space oh that would be

3827
03:36:43,921 --> 03:36:37,360
so awesome

3828
03:36:46,201 --> 03:36:43,931
very much for that yes I absolutely love

3829
03:36:49,860 --> 03:36:46,211
Sedona you know it's just it's just so

3830
03:36:52,680 --> 03:36:49,870
strange how I you know me and Ben you

3831
03:36:55,740 --> 03:36:52,690
know are just fascinated with this

3832
03:36:58,591 --> 03:36:55,750
subject and for some reason that place

3833
03:37:01,890 --> 03:36:58,601
just called me before I even knew

3834
03:37:04,921 --> 03:37:01,900
anything about it you know and I would

3835
03:37:07,201 --> 03:37:04,931
love to do like a regression with you I

3836
03:37:10,680 --> 03:37:07,211
would love to find out some things about

3837
03:37:14,640 --> 03:37:10,690
myself that I don't even know and and

3838
03:37:18,121 --> 03:37:14,650
that would be that I studied for 15

3839
03:37:23,280 --> 03:37:18,131
years with Dolores Canon no you didn't

3840
03:37:25,560 --> 03:37:23,290
oh yeah oh we also heard that you uh did

3841
03:37:29,220 --> 03:37:25,570
I tell you that I used to study with

3842
03:37:34,621 --> 03:37:29,230
justice Campbell no but I I read that on

3843
03:37:37,140 --> 03:37:34,631
your yeah yeah a little bio did like a

3844
03:37:40,230 --> 03:37:37,150
retreat with the Dalai Lama that's

3845
03:37:43,081 --> 03:37:40,240
incredible you heard that yeah we heard

3846
03:37:46,041 --> 03:37:43,091
that awesome so you listeners that are

3847
03:37:49,201 --> 03:37:46,051
listening right now like Jocelyn is a

3848
03:37:52,230 --> 03:37:49,211
legend and and you're the legend that

3849
03:37:55,671 --> 03:37:52,240
people need to know about oh my god I

3850
03:38:00,631 --> 03:37:55,681
gotta get I gotta get busy on this book

3851
03:38:04,051 --> 03:38:00,641
I'm like you know two-thirds way and

3852
03:38:06,301 --> 03:38:04,061
then I get two-thirds the way and then I

3853
03:38:08,251 --> 03:38:06,311
go back and I start looking at the first

3854
03:38:11,671 --> 03:38:08,261
part again I think oh I got to change

3855
03:38:12,661 --> 03:38:11,681
that and then I get two-thirds so and I

3856
03:38:15,270 --> 03:38:12,671
oh my god

3857
03:38:18,841 --> 03:38:15,280
I've got you know new information I have

3858
03:38:23,211 --> 03:38:18,851
changed that and so it's been taking me

3859
03:38:27,390 --> 03:38:23,221
a hell of a long time just to relinquish

3860
03:38:29,490 --> 03:38:27,400
what I know to be true and part of it is

3861
03:38:32,400 --> 03:38:29,500
that I'm

3862
03:38:34,729 --> 03:38:32,410
I'm thinking that maybe some of the

3863
03:38:44,250 --> 03:38:34,739
information that I'm going to get out

3864
03:38:46,139 --> 03:38:44,260
may put a few independent vortex tour

3865
03:38:50,040 --> 03:38:46,149
guides out of work

3866
03:38:53,330 --> 03:38:50,050
oh yeah and that's you know it's a hard

3867
03:38:56,639 --> 03:38:53,340
thing to realize but on the other hand I

3868
03:39:02,519 --> 03:38:56,649
heard that a couple of these tour guides

3869
03:39:09,809 --> 03:39:02,529
have abandoned people on the trail on

3870
03:39:12,030 --> 03:39:09,819
the way out that's not cool Oh somebody

3871
03:39:15,330 --> 03:39:12,040
who is following somebody that is

3872
03:39:21,599 --> 03:39:15,340
starring on the History Channel episode

3873
03:39:25,860 --> 03:39:21,609
and you know they got to keep up oh my

3874
03:39:28,760 --> 03:39:25,870
gosh it's been so sad to see what's

3875
03:39:32,190 --> 03:39:28,770
happened to sit down and they sell out

3876
03:39:36,000 --> 03:39:32,200
it's like 90% of the people out there

3877
03:39:42,660 --> 03:39:36,010
are you know pure [\h__\h] but there are

3878
03:39:44,639 --> 03:39:42,670
10% out there that are still real right

3879
03:39:47,340 --> 03:39:44,649
well if you can put the [\h__\h] out

3880
03:39:49,229 --> 03:39:47,350
artists out of work and keep the 10%

3881
03:39:52,320 --> 03:39:49,239
around I mean you're doing us all a

3882
03:39:54,210 --> 03:39:52,330
favor yeah and also from our hangouts at

3883
03:39:58,559 --> 03:39:54,220
UFO Congress I feel like we need to have

3884
03:40:02,010 --> 03:39:58,569
the three musketeers which means you and

3885
03:40:04,170 --> 03:40:02,020
Melinda and and Lorien and us - my god

3886
03:40:06,110 --> 03:40:04,180
and then we'll just kind of you know air

3887
03:40:09,150 --> 03:40:06,120
it's like a Festivus you ever watched

3888
03:40:10,740 --> 03:40:09,160
Seinfeld will have a Festivus 1 episode

3889
03:40:14,460 --> 03:40:10,750
yeah absolutely

3890
03:40:18,210 --> 03:40:14,470
oh my god she would be in for it you

3891
03:40:21,300 --> 03:40:18,220
know a five-hour episode I'm going to

3892
03:40:24,809 --> 03:40:21,310
give you some private information after

3893
03:40:34,229 --> 03:40:24,819
this but those girls are trouble and I'm

3894
03:40:37,410 --> 03:40:34,239
going to tell you I love them for it oh

3895
03:40:39,780 --> 03:40:37,420
my gosh Jocelyn thank you so much for

3896
03:40:42,950 --> 03:40:39,790
being on the Block I love you guys

3897
03:40:47,940 --> 03:40:42,960
wonderful to have met you at the

3898
03:40:49,320 --> 03:40:47,950
Congress I knew that you were people of

3899
03:40:52,740 --> 03:40:49,330
my own heart

3900
03:40:57,179 --> 03:40:52,750
and my own consciousness and I

3901
03:41:00,240 --> 03:40:57,189
appreciate you calling me and inviting

3902
03:41:03,000 --> 03:41:00,250
me onto your show this is been a true

3903
03:41:05,700 --> 03:41:03,010
honor absolutely and you or the start of

3904
03:41:08,610 --> 03:41:05,710
our kind of awakening in this this this

3905
03:41:10,440 --> 03:41:08,620
community and us getting into into this

3906
03:41:12,960 --> 03:41:10,450
thing that we really are very passionate

3907
03:41:15,480 --> 03:41:12,970
about and it's kind of you you mean a

3908
03:41:17,460 --> 03:41:15,490
lot to us and thank you so much for for

3909
03:41:19,860 --> 03:41:17,470
taking our call and just hanging out

3910
03:41:21,929 --> 03:41:19,870
with us for like three hours yeah thank

3911
03:41:24,059 --> 03:41:21,939
you very much yeah seriously Jocelyn

3912
03:41:26,070 --> 03:41:24,069
like we can't thank you enough and well

3913
03:41:27,719 --> 03:41:26,080
we need to get you back on the podcast

3914
03:41:30,330 --> 03:41:27,729
again I'm sure we're gonna have you on

3915
03:41:31,920 --> 03:41:30,340
multiple times so just be expecting my

3916
03:41:36,389 --> 03:41:31,930
email and a couple of months and I'll

3917
03:41:38,370 --> 03:41:36,399
hit C up and all I look forward to and I

3918
03:41:42,300 --> 03:41:38,380
look forward to you guys coming out and

3919
03:41:44,940 --> 03:41:42,310
hear and see me in Sedona Southwest is

3920
03:41:48,090 --> 03:41:44,950
having a sale you know so you know

3921
03:41:50,639 --> 03:41:48,100
anywhere you want to go 49 bucks like

3922
03:41:52,620 --> 03:41:50,649
that I like that well maybe we'll have

3923
03:42:03,950 --> 03:41:52,630
to give you a little pit stop before we

3924
03:42:06,990 --> 03:42:03,960
go out to you a folk on oh yeah okay I

3925
03:42:09,660 --> 03:42:07,000
am really looking forward to seeing you

3926
03:42:15,840 --> 03:42:09,670
at UFO Con with my friend Laurie and

3927
03:42:18,230 --> 03:42:15,850
Fenton and Melinda Leslie and there's

3928
03:42:21,380 --> 03:42:18,240
some new friends that I have just made

3929
03:42:26,400 --> 03:42:21,390
that are going to be speaking there and

3930
03:42:29,809 --> 03:42:26,410
I love you guys thank you so much for

3931
03:42:37,290 --> 03:42:33,480
thank you we'll talk to you later okay

3932
03:42:42,120 --> 03:42:37,300
bye bye all right bye bye dude

3933
03:42:43,710 --> 03:42:42,130
dude that was sick was so awesome I'm so

3934
03:42:46,349 --> 03:42:43,720
glad we got her on the podcast

3935
03:42:48,480 --> 03:42:46,359
seriously man like it's it all comes

3936
03:42:51,420 --> 03:42:48,490
like full circle like from the beginning

3937
03:42:52,680 --> 03:42:51,430
of us kind of like opening our eyes in

3938
03:42:54,751 --> 03:42:52,690
this community

3939
03:42:58,501 --> 03:42:54,761
and and and things that we kind of knew

3940
03:43:01,140 --> 03:42:58,511
that thought we knew about and really

3941
03:43:03,270 --> 03:43:01,150
kind of understood a little bit deeper

3942
03:43:07,381 --> 03:43:03,280
and said yeah digging deeper in this

3943
03:43:09,711 --> 03:43:07,391
dude the photo evidence of this account

3944
03:43:12,421 --> 03:43:09,721
of her account of Jocelyn's account

3945
03:43:14,640 --> 03:43:12,431
incredible dude I really hope that that

3946
03:43:16,560 --> 03:43:14,650
you guys that have been listening have

3947
03:43:19,291 --> 03:43:16,570
been following along with these these

3948
03:43:20,881 --> 03:43:19,301
photos because it just it makes the

3949
03:43:22,950 --> 03:43:20,891
experience much better when he can like

3950
03:43:25,560 --> 03:43:22,960
see exactly what she's talking about

3951
03:43:28,921 --> 03:43:25,570
yeah yeah just listening like go back

3952
03:43:31,140 --> 03:43:28,931
when you get home or whatever and click

3953
03:43:33,211 --> 03:43:31,150
that link on our website and just follow

3954
03:43:36,211 --> 03:43:33,221
along because it makes it so much cooler

3955
03:43:38,011 --> 03:43:36,221
like to be able to see because it's

3956
03:43:40,860 --> 03:43:38,021
basically like you guys are sitting here

3957
03:43:43,350 --> 03:43:40,870
in the room with us going along with

3958
03:43:46,381 --> 03:43:43,360
everything that she is talking about and

3959
03:43:49,350 --> 03:43:46,391
and I mean just the detail and the story

3960
03:43:54,390 --> 03:43:49,360
that goes behind every single photo is

3961
03:43:57,360 --> 03:43:54,400
is insane super awesome insane like so

3962
03:44:00,570 --> 03:43:57,370
yeah I mean Jocelyn thank you and thank

3963
03:44:02,700 --> 03:44:00,580
your friends like for for these photos I

3964
03:44:04,860 --> 03:44:02,710
mean that's that's incredible you know

3965
03:44:09,121 --> 03:44:04,870
this is it's that's something that would

3966
03:44:10,770 --> 03:44:09,131
take us years to acquire well if we were

3967
03:44:12,900 --> 03:44:10,780
to just go out and try and snap photos

3968
03:44:14,551 --> 03:44:12,910
and stuff on our own right or what I'm

3969
03:44:16,591 --> 03:44:14,561
saying the fun thing to think about is

3970
03:44:18,530 --> 03:44:16,601
like we'll get some feedback from people

3971
03:44:21,390 --> 03:44:18,540
that are listening to this episode and

3972
03:44:24,240 --> 03:44:21,400
I'd love for anybody that would love us

3973
03:44:26,161 --> 03:44:24,250
to ask questions about you know like

3974
03:44:28,051 --> 03:44:26,171
next time we have her on because we're

3975
03:44:29,881 --> 03:44:28,061
gonna have her on again yeah death of

3976
03:44:32,761 --> 03:44:29,891
anybody thinks of anything to ask her

3977
03:44:35,131 --> 03:44:32,771
just email us or hit us up on the group

3978
03:44:37,291 --> 03:44:35,141
Facebook the Facebook group yeah let us

3979
03:44:39,030 --> 03:44:37,301
know yeah it's cuz we're gonna have her

3980
03:44:41,700 --> 03:44:39,040
on again we're gonna have Laurie in on

3981
03:44:43,801 --> 03:44:41,710
and then Melinda we're gonna we have yet

3982
03:44:46,020 --> 03:44:43,811
to get ahold of her she's kind of hard

3983
03:44:47,881 --> 03:44:46,030
to get ahold to a hold of but we're

3984
03:44:51,961 --> 03:44:47,891
gonna get ahold of her we're gonna do it

3985
03:44:55,110 --> 03:44:51,971
we're gonna do it but yeah so it's just

3986
03:44:55,650 --> 03:44:55,120
such an awesome podcast yeah I'm pretty

3987
03:44:57,841 --> 03:44:55,660
speechless

3988
03:45:01,440 --> 03:44:57,851
yeah really my mind is kind of blown

3989
03:45:03,751 --> 03:45:01,450
really absolutely absolutely man so yeah

3990
03:45:04,560 --> 03:45:03,761
I mean guys I hope y'all enjoyed the

3991
03:45:07,200 --> 03:45:04,570
half man and

3992
03:45:08,850 --> 03:45:07,210
and like we said follow along with the

3993
03:45:11,880 --> 03:45:08,860
photos and you're gonna enjoy it a

3994
03:45:15,950 --> 03:45:11,890
hundred times more do I it's it's just

3995
03:45:23,580 --> 03:45:15,960
those those photos are amazing amazing

3996
03:45:26,100 --> 03:45:23,590
amazing thing like I mean up that's all

3997
03:45:29,670 --> 03:45:26,110
I got man that's it for me too man mines

3998
03:45:32,730 --> 03:45:29,680
mush absolutely absolutely me too man so

3999
03:45:35,880 --> 03:45:32,740
so thank y'all so much for listening

4000
03:45:38,580 --> 03:45:35,890
UFO garage podcast nation

4001
03:45:40,770 --> 03:45:38,590
thank y'all for sticking with us well

4002
03:45:45,180 --> 03:45:40,780
we've only got more stories for you guys

4003
03:45:47,100 --> 03:45:45,190
more more guests more guests coming up

4004
03:45:49,740 --> 03:45:47,110
we've got more stories to tell you guys

4005
03:45:53,820 --> 03:45:49,750
more fund more dumb [\h__\h] that we're

4006
03:45:55,590 --> 03:45:53,830
gonna make up way way it's gonna be

4007
03:45:57,990 --> 03:45:55,600
great it's gonna be good time and check

4008
03:46:00,750 --> 03:45:58,000
out the new website UFO garage PC we've

4009
03:46:03,750 --> 03:46:00,760
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4010
03:46:05,310 --> 03:46:03,760
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4011
03:46:07,470 --> 03:46:05,320
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4012
03:46:09,330 --> 03:46:07,480
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4013
03:46:13,200 --> 03:46:09,340
we're excited where things are going and

4014
03:46:15,511 --> 03:46:13,210
we've made enough money to buy from

4015
03:46:18,630 --> 03:46:15,521
donations and people buying t-shirts to

4016
03:46:22,770 --> 03:46:18,640
buy the GoPros so soon enough we're

4017
03:46:25,050 --> 03:46:22,780
gonna be having some video YouTube

4018
03:46:28,560 --> 03:46:25,060
videos of us and you'll get to see our

4019
03:46:30,511 --> 03:46:28,570
faces and just us cracking up and you

4020
03:46:32,910 --> 03:46:30,521
know doing dumb [\h__\h] having a good time

4021
03:46:35,340 --> 03:46:32,920
yeah havin a good time man do the

4022
03:46:40,610 --> 03:46:35,350
podcast then it'll actually see how many

4023
03:46:42,511 --> 03:46:40,620
beers pile yep yep well alright man

4024
03:46:45,210 --> 03:46:42,521
that's it for me brother

4025
03:46:47,820 --> 03:46:45,220
that's up for me too alright ladies and

4026
03:46:48,501 --> 03:46:47,830
gentlemen thank you listening once again

4027
03:46:51,310 --> 03:46:48,511
this

4028
03:46:55,071 --> 03:46:51,320
spend another episode of UFO garage